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Cordarrelle Patterson vs. Tavon Austin

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BigSyke    113

I see what Chuck is saying. Welker is the main go to guy and technically is the "no1".

But since he is limited to a degree and can't line up on the outside, he's not considered a true number 1 wide-out.

Now Desean Jackson, another short wr, is limited to only the 9 route. But since HE IS A DEEP THREAT he has more value. And he's not really limited to the 9 route, it's just that dude can't take those big hits because he is small as fug.

One of the things(big hits) I'm worried about Tavon dealing with

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Bwood    190

LOL Welker is not a fugging #1 receiver.

Just because he was Brady's safety valve doesn't mean he is their "number one" receiver. That's like saying Greg Olsen is our #1 receiver.

Brandon Lloyd was the Patriots number one receiver. Your number one receiver should be able to run every route, get jump balls, and take on the opposing defenses #1 corner.

Welker was a miss match for teams nickle corners, safeties, and linebackers. He wouldn't do squat against a true shutdown corner.

And can we PLEASE keep in mind who made Welkers name? Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. Watch Julian Edleman do the exact same thing.

Austin is nothing more than a slot receiver and kick returner.

Now Patterson and Allen, can be #1 receivers. They have the size and potential to be Julio Jones like. Not megatron or AJ, but they are bigger speedy receivers that make perfect flankers on the outside.

Stop being close minded.

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jarhead    1,031

You dont draft slot wr's / KR's with the 14th pick.

Austin is good, but he is a luxury pick, something we dont have

He is more than just a slot receiver....he can add that scat back element to our running game as well especially knowing Dwill still may be a June 1 cut

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Dash Global    139

He is more than just a slot receiver....he can add that scat back element to our running game as well especially knowing Dwill still may be a June 1 cut

scatback / slot still not worth a 14th pick when we got this many needs.

luxury pick

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BigSyke    113

Glad to see others see that Tavon is just a slot. mannnnnnn...WHEW LOLOL

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panther4life    2,360

I have yet to see Austin catch a pass higher than 7 feet vertically. He rarely goes deep and seems to make all of his plays in space. You get him jammed up against an NFL corner on the outside and I don't think he will be nearly as effective.

Just not a fit for our offense. Cam throws a lot of his balls too high, so we need someone who can go up and get them.

Cam's accuarcy is also much better on deep routes than the short quick routes you'd have to employ to get Austin the ball in space to utilize his strengths.

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La Pantera    983

I have yet to see Austin catch a pass higher than 7 feet vertically. He rarely goes deep and seems to make all of his plays in space. You get him jammed up against an NFL corner on the outside and I don't think he will be nearly as effective.

Just not a fit for our offense. Cam throws a lot of his balls too high, so we need someone who can go up and get them.

Cam's accuarcy is also much better on deep routes than the short quick routes you'd have to employ to get Austin the ball in space to utilize his strengths.

I love both guys. I wanted Austin after I seen the show he put on against Clemson in that bowl game. And I've wanted to get CP since the begining of the season. I totally agree, I've yet to see TA high point a ball in the air and CP is raw. I'd take either, but both have areas that need improvement.

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panther4life    2,360

Back in 2002 Smitty wasnt a number 1 receiver either.

Was that his fault or John Fox's? Smith can do things Austin can't. Namely go up and compete for passes in the air. Fight off the jam against physical NFL corners.

Its all about being a fit for the offense. Austin can and likely will have success in this league,I just don't see it being with us. I'd seriously rather have your boy Bailey in the 2nd.

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BigSyke    113

^I had been asking him about Bailey...but he always seemed to favor Tavon........

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ncsu12engr    340

I personally don't like the idea of taking a WR in the first. But, if we did I would want a guy like Patterson or Allen that can play on the outside. If we drafted a WR that can play on the outside we could then move Smitty to the slot which would cause matchup nightmares for defenses.

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Squirrel    2,858

Was that his fault or John Fox's? Smith can do things Austin can't. Namely go up and compete for passes in the air. Fight off the jam against physical NFL corners.

Its all about being a fit for the offense. Austin can and likely will have success in this league,I just don't see it being with us. I'd seriously rather have your boy Bailey in the 2nd.

No on this board even after the Superbowl people was saying Smitty wasnt a true #1 and we needed a bigger receiver.

As for Bailey he is a true slot receiver and wont be more than a #2 WR. Only issue I have with Bailey is if he can stay healthy. He doesnt seem to play well hurt. I would take him in the 2nd or 3rd though. Good production player and can make the difficult catches.

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koolkatluke    474

Back in 2002 Smitty wasnt a number 1 receiver either.

And Austin isn't Smitty and we didn't have to use a top 15 pick on Smitty.

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nagai    74

I really think Austin's more than a slot receiver. He's quicker, tougher and stronger than your typical speed guy. He had to learn a new position in college and achieved that in stride. This shows that he's decently smart. What makes someone a #1 receiver is their ability to stretch the field and beat top corners. Can Austin get separation against top cover guys? I think so. He's certainly not someone you can beat with just bump and run; nor is he someone that has to win early, because he has elite top speed.

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IamSoClutch    774

Patteson can play slot with austins talent and eventually move to the outside. Him being covered by a nickel wound increase his immediate impact

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