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It's not as if our pass rush was bad last year.  The key for our pass defense will be stopping the run.  Stopping the run = dictating what the opposing offense can do.  To get sacks, interceptions, getting off the field in general requires obviously passing situations.  We had relatively very few of those last year.

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Corner is such a ridiculously hard position to learn. Its like a miracle when you find a decent one with a year under his belt. Theyre already fighting a losing battle since the league wants touchdowns. Rules committees are making sure of that. Receivers are trained to use the slightest fault in theyre technique against them. Things like being soft with your hands will get you owned over and over again even if you have the speed to be in every play.

 

We're in a pretty good spot though. Massive front seven, lost a badass corner and got a decent replacement to protect the 1, safety has competition at least, and the 2 will be up for grabs from Thomas or Norman.

 

 

32 is not old for a corner btw, its up there but its not out of their prime. Champs is doing just fine at 34 or 35 right now and Darrell Green was tackling running backs and covering Megatron sized receivers until he was 42.

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Agree that it helps the secondary the most, Norman was playing not to get beat last year (which as usual results in getting beat). The quicker we can collapse the pocket the less he has to worry about getting beat. 

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He needs to press and not give 7 - 10 yard cushions to top WR's.

However, if he was getting beat over the top everyone would be whining about that.

maybe he isn't pressing bc the 6th rounder is worried he lacks the ability to defend?

people got overinfatuated with him....thinking trash talk meant skill

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Agree that it helps the secondary the most, Norman was playing not to get beat last year (which as usual results in getting beat). The quicker we can collapse the pocket the less he has to worry about getting beat.

no team generated better pressure than us last year.....yet that is 95% of the talk about how to fix our secondary issue.

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Agree that it helps the secondary the most, Norman was playing not to get beat last year (which as usual results in getting beat). The quicker we can collapse the pocket the less he has to worry about getting beat.

best answer. U think norman can bounceback?

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Florence will not start.... I will actually be surprised if he makes the final roster.

Wanna put money on it? I know you have money

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maybe he isn't pressing bc the 6th rounder is worried he lacks the ability to defend?

people got overinfatuated with him....thinking trash talk meant skill

Lol that and they thought he was god after his 4 interceptions in practice

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I would much rather have a monstrous front seven and a weak secondary than the other way around....

example Dashon Goldson he is incredibly overated and people will see that this season now that he isn't playing behind the niners front 7.

I agree. As good as Bucs secondary is, I don't think it'll take them anyway far this season. Bucs loss pretty much their best pass rusher in Bennett and they did nothing to address this other than taking Gholston late in the draft. And Bennett isnt wasnt anything spectacular. Clayborn and Bowers never became the players they were suppose to become. Though, there is still time for them. Don't even mention their linebackers. It's TERRIBLE!

History has shown that SB teams can win with mediocracy in the secondary. Just check the previous 5-7 years.

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I agree. As good as Bucs secondary is, I don't think it'll take them anyway far this season. Bucs loss pretty much their best pass rusher in Bennett and they did nothing to address this other than taming Gholston late in the draft. Clayborn and Bowers never became the players they were suppose to become. This there is time for them. Don't even mention their linebackers. It's TERRIBLE!

History has shown that SB teams can win with mediocracy in the secondary. Just check the previous 5-7 years.

Tampa has some decent players in there front seven, David and McCoy are pretty good other than that they have no pass rush....

 

 

We are the only team in the NFCS that has a pass rush that can actually be feared.....

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Corner is such a ridiculously hard position to learn. Its like a miracle when you find a decent one with a year under his belt. Theyre already fighting a losing battle since the league wants touchdowns. Rules committees are making sure of that. Receivers are trained to use the slightest fault in theyre technique against them. Things like being soft with your hands will get you owned over and over again even if you have the speed to be in every play.

 

We're in a pretty good spot though. Massive front seven, lost a badass corner and got a decent replacement to protect the 1, safety has competition at least, and the 2 will be up for grabs from Thomas or Norman.

 

 

32 is not old for a corner btw, its up there but its not out of their prime. Champs is doing just fine at 34 or 35 right now and Darrell Green was tackling running backs and covering Megatron sized receivers until he was 42.

Florence is no were close to the level of any of those guys in fact he is injury prone....

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Lol that and they thought he was god after his 4 interceptions in practice

Don't trash the kid this early. You might have to bite young tongue next time. Face it. The kid was a rookie last season. He played like a rookie but at times he played better than most rookies. Fans today wants "immediate" impact from their rookies and if they don't make the pro bowl, they're gonna cry about how bad he is. There is still time for Norman to succeed. He can be very good. Just give the kid time to develop and be comfortable. Please!

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