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Why I don't want Noel.

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Noel absolutely takes away from Biz's progression.

You can't play both on the floor at the same time because you won't have an offensive post presence and it's more than likely that Noel would see more playing time than Biz.

As much as I love Biz, Biz has not shown anything. He's lucky to get the PT he had the last two seasons, bc he's on the Bobcats. If Noel gets more PT than Biz, that means he's doing something right! I rather have a guy who can play than a guy who I hope can play.

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Biz has definitely improved and on top of that he's only 20.

I already pointed out how well he played in the last two weeks of the NBA.

On top of that, Biz has a body that can take a beating in the post, Noel has a body that will snap in the post.

LBJ would absolutely break Noel... No and, or, ifs, or buts about it.

I just want people on this board to quit being so enamored with a prospect that they don't look at both sides of the spectrum (the good and the bad).

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Biz has definitely improved and on top of that he's only 20.

I already pointed out how well he played in the last two weeks of the NBA.

On top of that, Biz has a body that can take a beating in the post, Noel has a body that will snap in the post.

LBJ would absolutely break Noel... No and, or, ifs, or buts about it.

I just want people on this board to quit being so enamored with a prospect that they don't look at both sides of the spectrum (the good and the bad).

Please look at all guys at both spectrum instead of just riding on Len. You've always been a guy who like to bash others who you aren't 'enamored' with.

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Please look at all guys at both spectrum instead of just riding on Len. You've always been a guy who like to bash others who you aren't 'enamored' with.

 

 

That's because I have followed these guys all year, and I have a pretty good idea of what they can and cannot do.

 

So to see people make sh*t up about them to strengthen their argument really annoys me.

 

Kind of like when you were riding Bazz before he even played a college game, now look at him, he might not even be a top 10 pick.

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That's because I have followed these guys all year, and I have a pretty good idea of what they can and cannot do.

 

So to see people make sh*t up about them to strengthen their argument really annoys me.

 

Kind of like when you were riding Bazz before he even played a college game, now look at him, he might not even be a top 10 pick.

 

 

I respect your opinion and I have followed this team since the beginning as well. I think we are all hanging around this forum to talk about a team we cheer for. 

 

I don't see it as making poo up just having two different points of views. 

 

You don't see Noel at having all-star potential and thats what it boils down to. I on the other hand do see all-star potential if his knee checks out. I do not see Biz with Allstar potential and that is no knock on Biz just my view of him as a player. 

 

Now as far as wanting players....thats what we do as fans! I wanted Bazz in the middle of the season and I remember getting into good conversations on why Id prefer Bazz over McLemore.

 

Chuck disagreed with me but thats the fun part!

 

If we all just said what you said this forum would suck....

 

I want Len. If he is not there then I would trade...thread over lets not discuss anything.....forum closed.....happy carolinapanther because we all agree with you

 

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That's silly. No one is destroying Biz' progression by drafting Noel. Noel is much more athletic and probably a better player than Biz. You gotta keep your option open and if Noel is there, you gotta take him.

 

Let's remember that we're going to have to spend some money this off season. Bring in a guy like J.J. Hickson, and this is a great move. Hickson would compliment greatly with both Biz and Noel. Also, Noel is not going to be back till around Christmas. Biz will have all the time to develop.

 

Biz and Noel aren't Centers!!! Biz has been playing out of position because he's the strongest player in the post on this team. And in the Nba a 6-11 212 pound player isn't going to be able to take the beating going against the Dwight Howard , Gasol's, Hibbert, and Lopez's in the league.

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I still don't get why we can't have depth? What's wrong with both Noel and Biz? Do they have to play together? No. Can they? Yes. Offensive part might be a struggle but lets be honest. The NBA is a driving league. 

 

Majority of NBA teams but require a "superstar"

PG: Top PGs are scoring point guards who break down the defense. Some have an outside shot and can shoot the 3 

SG: Now mainly see 3 pt shooting specialists who get the ball after other players drive

SF: Driving to the basket using athleticism 

PF: Stretch floor hit the mid range jumper

C: See PF bc usually no Center on the floor

 

Fundamental Teams (Spurs/Pacers/Memphis) "team basketball"

Same as above except with Post game players at the C or PF positions.

 

So what type of team are we going to be in the future? Can Noel or Biz be a legit post threat? I am assuming Noel is available because Len is already off the board. So if you had to pick Noel/Bennett/Oladipo, who do you pick? 

 

I say go for length. I am sick of the Brandon Haywood, Mullens, Diop combos. 

 

Small market Teams compete with well rounded teams. We will never get a Lebron or Durrant type wings where it doesn't matter what we have in the post. No we have to build like the Indy's and Grizzles. Get a big man and we can compete on a nightly bases.

 

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Small market Teams compete with well rounded teams. We will never get a Lebron or Durrant type wings where it doesn't matter what we have in the post. No we have to build like the Indy's and Grizzles. Get a big man and we can compete on a nightly bases.

 

 

I agree with you which is why im on the Len bandwagon. But If we are talking about Noel being available Im assuming its because Len jumped him. We need to get bigger so if no Len Im taking Noel if available. 

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That's because I have followed these guys all year, and I have a pretty good idea of what they can and cannot do.

So to see people make sh*t up about them to strengthen their argument really annoys me.

Kind of like when you were riding Bazz before he even played a college game, now look at him, he might not even be a top 10 pick.

Difference is Bazz isn't Noel. Noel actually played well. If he didn't tear his ACL, it's a no brainier that he's the no1 pick.

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Biz and Noel aren't Centers!!! Biz has been playing out of position because he's the strongest player in the post on this team. And in the Nba a 6-11 212 pound player isn't going to be able to take the beating going against the Dwight Howard , Gasol's, Hibbert, and Lopez's in the league.

I agree both of them are not centers, but tell me how many teams actually have a true 7 footer centers. Majority of the teams are playing with 6'10-6'11 centers.

Duncan 6'11

Jefferson 6'10

Howard 6'11

Jordan 6'11

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I agree with you which is why im on the Len bandwagon. But If we are talking about Noel being available Im assuming its because Len jumped him. We need to get bigger so if no Len Im taking Noel if available.

Correct.

Of course we prefer Len over Noel. Only way we're taking Noel is if Len goes no1. That's the only way of a chance of Noel falling to 4 assuming Wash doesn't bite on him. If Len is gone and Noel is there, YOU TAKE HIM.

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