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DaveThePanther2008

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davethepanther - here's an article. i'm going to agree with it

poster - me too. here's me basically paraphrasing what that article said in agreement

davethepanther - whoa whoa whoa before you go killing yourself there debbie downer let me introduce you to all of our hypothetical 1000 yard receivers

 

 

I mean seriously....I can TOTALLY see this being the year that Ginn and Gettis BOTH get over 1000 yards.  

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Get your head out of your asses. Smith will play at a dominant level for 10+ years.

Shut up. No questions asked.

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Well I think there are a few things we can infer about this past draft and free agency period, or for last 2 years for that matter. Obviously Star and Short were considered bigger impact players then who was left available at WR. Secondly, the fact that we are still relying on Smith so dependently may just mean that he is still more dominant than people tend to believe.

 

I think this will be the last year we lean on Smith, there's still juice in the tank for him to be a #1 for this year, and Hixon and Ginn should be enough to make a formidable group with LaFell. I am confident that the offense can go. Next year however I expect a 1st or 2nd round selection at WR and then we start moving Smitty around a bit more. Which I still expect Smith to be a great player next year as well so he should have some pretty good numbers if we can get a premier talent by his side.

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Outside Smitty, our wide receiver core is a joke. It always has been. I don't know what excuse Hurney had for not drafting a top level receiver. Granted, wideouts bust at a high rate in the first round but the front office has done an absolute horrid job in assembling a solid supporting cast for Smith and Newton/Delhomme. I never had faith in Carter, Jarrett, Colbert and Edwards, and LaFell has been a disappointment.

We need a double-dip WR draft this upcoming off-season.

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Outside Smitty, our wide receiver core is a joke. It always has been. I don't know what excuse Hurney had for not drafting a top level receiver. Granted, wideouts bust at a high rate in the first round but the front office has done an absolute horrid job in assembling a solid supporting cast for Smith and Newton/Delhomme. I never had faith in Carter, Jarrett, Colbert and Edwards, and LaFell has been a disappointment.

We need a double-dip WR draft this upcoming off-season.

Why do you say lafell is a disappointment? Its not like we picked him in the first or something. The only bone I have with lafell is he needs to be more consistant.

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Why do you say lafell is a disappointment? Its not like we picked him in the first or something. The only bone I have with lafell is he needs to be more consistant.

Because ever since he's shown flashes of greatness, he's played spotty. He'll have a great game one week and then show up again three weeks later. He's unreliable. LaFell is a decent #2 but if Smitty goes down with an injury, I don't expect Brandon to step up.

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But that was 2004 and we had Moose who was still good enough to be a #1. And if I recall we don't make the playoffs that year. That was the year between the Super Bowl and the NFC Championship. Your example actually shows how when Smitty went down we were fugged (which we my point)

 

Why do you insist I am arguing with you?

 

You also forget that Smitty's injury was just one of the many we had that season and had we won the last game I believe we would have made the playoffs at 8-8 but we choked it against. N.O.

 

Do you realize we had nearly 4K yards passing last year?   I hope we never find out but, I still believe we will be ok.  Even if the #1 spot is done by committee.

 

You say we are fug'd, I say we would be in big trouble but not necessarily screwed. 

 

So do you suggest we just throw in the towel if Smitty goes down or hope someone steps up. 

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Ginn is pretty much a bust at the receiver position (I am excited about him on special teams), Hixon can not stay hurt and there is a good chance that Gettis will not make the team.  I would rather rely on Lafell and Olsen any day of the week than those three.

 

 

Got you on Gettis and Hixon but Ginn I am not buying the bust label, YET.  Granted it was in short and no contact but he seems motivated to shed that label.  So I'll hold judgment on him for now.

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Why do you insist I am arguing with you?

 

 

 

So do you suggest we just throw in the towel if Smitty goes down or hope someone steps up. 

 

 

1)  I'm not arguing - don't think you are either

 

2)  Yes, I hope someone steps up.  That's the keyword in your sentence.  You make it sound like "no big deal....Ginn or Gettis will just stretch the field and go off for 1K".  If Smitty goes down then we are in big, big trouble.  That's all....

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Got you on Gettis and Hixon but Ginn I am not buying the bust label, YET. Granted it was in short and no contact but he seems motivated to shed that label. So I'll hold judgment on him for now.

I want Ginn to do well, he is very exciting to watch on special teams and with his speed he could be a huge threat at receiver if he catches on. I was not trying to hate on him at all just saying I trust olsen and lafell more. Hopefully you are right and Ginn has a breakout year!

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