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tauren poole is the 5th best option on our roster

 

On paper of course he is...although 5th seems a bit of an exaggeration considering Barner hasn't even played a snap in the NFL (I'm guessing you put him in front of Poole).  Not saying Poole is better than Barner, but they're both unproven.  I'm not clamoring for Poole to start or anything, I'm just saying he was exciting to watch in the preseason last year and we only got a little glimpse of him.

 

Unless that comment was just made as an indication of how deep our backfield is...

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Being an athletic freak has nothing to do with production...it's all about measurables.  If someone had never played a sport in their entire life and runs a 4.3 40, throws up 35 reps on the benchpress, has a 43" vertical...that guy can't be deemed an athletic freak?

 

These professional scouts who know a ton more than any of us here have repeatedly used the term "athletic freak" to describe NFL prospects year after year.  I can't count how many times I've heard that term used about Ziggy Ansah before he even played a snap in the NFL.

Yeah they are commonly known as workout warriors. They make you think they are going to be great and they bust. I think of athletic freaks more like Newton who has the athleticism and the results at least in college and his first year in the pros.

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Being an athletic freak has nothing to do with production...it's all about measurables.  If someone had never played a sport in their entire life and runs a 4.3 40, throws up 35 reps on the benchpress, has a 43" vertical...that guy can't be deemed an athletic freak?

 

These professional scouts who know a ton more than any of us here have repeatedly used the term "athletic freak" to describe NFL prospects year after year.  I can't count how many times I've heard that term used about Ziggy Ansah before he even played a snap in the NFL.

To me they do go together someone who has great measurables but cant play the game is a bust not a freak. Do you think of bodybuilders as athletic freaks. Many of them have great measurables but cant play sports. Personally they just look like freaks.

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To me they do go together someone who has great measurables but cant play the game is a bust not a freak. Do you think of bodybuilders as athletic freaks. Many of them have great measurables but cant play sports. Personally they just look like freaks.

 

The bodybuilder analogy is irrelevant.  Strength is just one aspect of athleticism, an extremely strong person does not make an athlete.  However, an extremely strong, agile, fast, conditioned person makes an athlete to me.

 

Do you recall this thread posted a while back?

 

I think most people would agree with me on the definition of an athlete based on the posts in that thread.  No one even mentioned anything about production in that thread...that's because I think you're the only one who ties production on the field to athleticism.  They're two completely separate aspects.  An athletic freak can also be a bust...a bust is just a term used for anyone who doesn't pan out in the NFL. 

 

I think we just have different definitions of "athletic".  You seem to consider it more as someone who excels at sports, whereas I consider it someone who exhibits an exceptional blend of physical characteristics such as speed, strength, leaping ability, etc.  The term "athletic freak" being reserved for those with an elite level of those traits.

 

I know some will disagree with me on that definition, namely those who consider people like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady top-notch athletes.  People who consider them "athletic" do so from the standpoint that athleticism is tied to efficiency at sports.

 

I hadn't done this til now, but just google "athletic freak" and read the first couple articles.  They rank the top 20/top 10 "athletic freaks" and they repeatedly give 40 times, benchpress numbers, vertical leaps, etc. on each.  That's the criteria they're using to rank these athletes....yes, many of those players on those lists happen to have excellent college production as well, but that's only because freak athletes are in the best position to excel on the field because of their measurables.  With the exception of a few players from those two lists combined, the rankings don't mention anything about the players' stats in a given season...rather opting to go with 40 times, broad jumps, vertical leap, benchpress etc.

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You definitely can be an athletic freak and not have the intangibles to excel in sports. Does not mean you are not still a freak athlete.

Athletic freaks with drive are the ones that transcend the extraordinary.

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