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Am I the only Panther fan that would sign Hakeem Nicks over Hardy?

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#11 CelibatePimp



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:23 PM

Ofcourse other factors at play here. Say if Hardy has a great year and Nicks underwhelms then ofcourse that changes my thinking. Or say Lafell breaks out and has a 800 plus yd season, that also would come into play.


Nicks has not played 16 games ever in a regular season. Last year, he played 13, in those games, he had more receptions than lafell but got as many yards as Lafell. By receiving yards, Nicks ranked 56th in the NFL. On the other hand, Hardy ranked 14th in the NFL by sacks alone.


Based on last year alone, why would you go let someone who is performing at his position, ie, Hardy go for someone who is doing the same as Lafell?

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:36 PM

We'd have to be getting an all star WR still on the upswing of his career to justify letting go of an upswinging DE of Hardy's caliber.  DE is just such a more important position than WR.  Nicks is good, but he's not nearly good enough to justify letting go of Hardy.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:42 PM

Pretty much.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:59 PM

Can Nicks play DE if yes then I'm all for it.....

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:09 AM

On hindsight, Hurndog used the franchise tag completely wrong that offseason. Should have tagged DLo and just ponied up the ridiculous contract Kalil got anyway (and for the record, I'm not against Kalil being re-signed at all). Tagging DLo would have been smart. Needed to ensure a quality backfield to help what we all knew would be Cam with the first pick. Granted, he ended up not needing it, but the best way to help a young QB (not named pickles) succeed is a great ground game. Double Trouble was mandatory, but with age and recent performance factored in, DLo should have been a 1 yr tag and release with Stew the long term goal all along. That's just being proactive I suppose, and Hurney was at his best being reactive. I use the term "best" lightly. Locking up Stew was the right choice. DLo was questionable from the get go.

As for the Hardy situation, well I'll take two dominant DE's over a big contract injury concern WR any day.

Only time will tell, and it's easy to look in hindsight and say what we should have done. Revisionist history is too easy to expose flaws in real time dilemmas and decisions.

To answer your question, you're probably not the only fan who thinks that. I just question signing a what will be 26 yr old aging WR to a big contract over signing a what will be 25 yr old lunatic of a DE just now coming into his own to a big contract. DE's typically last longer than WR's, and are more of a premium position.

Finding a top notch WR is our next big priority, yes, but not at the expense of what Hardy can bring to the table. I guess we'll see If Greg was a flash in the pan last year or if he gets 50 sacks. At the same time, let's see how Nicks does in his contract year.

Sorry for my bad grammar and typos, I'm intoxicated.

Much love from San Diego. Go Panthers!!!

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:14 AM

Only way I'd rather have Nicks over Hardy is if the Kraken under preformed and still wanted Charles Johnson money or we really sh*t the bed and land a top 3 pick and take Clowney.


My dream scenario is Gettleman gets a time machine and goes back to 2008 and kicks Hurney square in the nutsack for putting us in the cap mess we're in. 

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:01 AM

It's not as simple as "would you rather have Hardy or Nicks". You're talking about allowing Hardy to hit Free Agency just for the CHANCE to sign Nicks. We'd still have to outbid a ton of other teams, and that's only IF the Giants choose not to franchise tag him. That's an awfully big risk to take.

But regardless, I would still take Hardy even if it was that simple. Not only is he a rising young star...we need that attitude on our team too. Especially with talks about complacency in the locker room and stuff like that. Did you see how we played against Atlanta in Game 2 last year? I have no doubt Hardy played a huge role in riling the team up for that one considering how he spoke out before the game about what went down at the end of Game 1.

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:18 AM

I understand the desire for another top-tier WR, but I don't think Hicks is at the level of what we need, and then I'm speaking selfishly.  Hardy entertains me and I'd hate to see him go...

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:36 AM

Yes, yes you are. Hardy > Nicks

Why? Because The Kraken has been more durable, and above average DEs help solidify a defense (such as keeping pressure off a weak secondary).

P.S ~ You're wrong about Stewie. NOW I'm done with you.

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 01:45 AM

That depends.  I'd love to have Nicks, but I'd also really like to keep Hardy.


Let's say that this coming season Frank Alexander really shows a lot when rotating in while Smitty loses a step and Nicks has another very good year for the NYG.  Does that change things?  It would for me.  In that scenario, I'd take Nicks > Hardy.

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