Soo...Elephant in the room question?
Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:20 PM
Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:45 PM
i think unless a coach is universally hated by the players and they want him gone, firing someone mid-season is just demoralizing to the whole team. I think it tells the players that management is done and has mailed the season in. If I were a player with only so many years to play I'd be furious to know one of mine was so blatantly being wasted. Not even having a real coach to play for.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:03 PM
Who is to blame for the slow start? There is only so much the coach can do to get grown men to do their job. Case in point; Redskins scheduled their homecoming game for the panthers, that pissed off the players and they went there and whooped ass. The only thing about Rivera was probably being too conservative.
Even with that, had Cam not fumbled against ATL and not thrown into the dirt against Seattle, we are talking about 3-2 by week 5 last season instead of 1-4.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:13 PM
I don't believe in firing a coach midseason unless there is a serious problem in the locker room. I don't believe it "sends a message"....
Oh it does, but the message it sends is "this team is a dumpster fire".
Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:17 PM
he won't be gone after five games. it will be after the season if we don't make the playoffs.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:27 PM
I believe Marty getting fired is what sparked this team last year. We saw a different Ron after that. If he goes 1-4 I'd fire him on the spot. Why? Hell why not? With this schedule at 1-4 the season is already over. No more of that winning when it doesn't matter poo.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 05:27 PM
I like RR. BUT This is a very realistic outcome with a new GM.
I really don't see how a new GM is going to have very much effect on the field in his first year.This is RR's team now, his guys, his coaches. The feeling things out period is over and the team will rise or fall on Rivera.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:03 PM
RR will get the season. With Gettleman's help...might even get another.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:07 PM
I've been ranting on this since Rivera took over but no one ever listens(points to last season)
Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:07 PM
If they start 2-8 again, there's no reason to keep him. Doesn't matter if they rally to 8-8. Rivera sucks early in the season and only coaches well when the pressure is off. Hopefully that changes this year but only time will tell...
Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:22 PM
He has to stay the whole season, no point in firing him.
Since the 1990 realignment, 18 teams have combined to make 24 in-season firings -- an average of a little more than one per season. Atlanta, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, the Vikings and St. Louis each have done it twice. Fourteen teams haven't fired a coach during the season at all.
Of the 22 interim coaches who have completed the season, only four (18.2%) -- Bruce Coslet (7-2 with Cincinnati in 1996), Phillips (2-1 with Atlanta in 2003), Gary Moeller (4-3 with Detroit in 2000) and Mike Singletary (5-4 with San Francisco in 2008) -- have posted winning records, and Phillips took over a team that was 5-4 under Bobby Ross. The only other coach fired with a winning record was Norv Turner (7-6 with Washington in 2000).
In the remainder of the season, those 22 interim coaches posted a combined record of 51-111 -- a .315 winning percentage that's only marginally better than the respective coaches they replaced (54-136, .284). The 2000 Lions are the lone team that ended up with a winning record (9-7); none of them made the playoffs.
However, eight interim coaches (36.4%) ended up being promoted to the full-time position -- including Mike Tice with the Vikings in 2001 and current head coaches Jeff Fisher (Houston/Tennessee, 1994), Singletary and Tom Cable (Oakland, 2008).
It took Fisher (141-115) five full seasons before he posted his first winning record in 1999. Singletary (16-19) and Cable (14-24) still are looking for their first. Coslet (21-39 with Cincinnati), Dave McGinnis (17-40 with Arizona), Dick LeBeau (12-33 with Cincinnati) and Richard Williamson (4-15 with Tampa Bay) never had one.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:33 PM
Moot point. Rivera/Panthers put up and all is forgotten.
Panthers go 6-10, Rivera is gone, Kraken is gone, #1 is gone and we are LA bound. Not going to happen.
This, will be our shining moment. 2013. Just have faith.
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