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La Pantera    983

Normans been playing in nickel formations. I'm not sure if Cap is sliding over and playing the nick (like last season) while Norman plays the outside. Or if he's actually playing the nick back.

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Kuech the Sneak    1,187

This is a guy who ill only buy into the hype once I see it during games, he was so frustrating to me last year I still resent him playing so soft on receivers. Playing off so far is just like your giving them the first down

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koolkatluke    474

I can't get the bears game out of my head where they ran the same play at him all the way down the field for the win.

And the falcons game that Nak gets so much blame for but people forget it was Norman that got smoked and burned by Roddy on that play.

And call it coincidence but we went 4-0 with him on the bench.

 

We were also without Gamble and we all know he was the Best CB on this team. So that doesn't mean much.

 

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JawnyBlaze    5,246

This teams best chance of winning is with Norman on the sidelines. I really don't get the obsession with him other than he's a loud mouth who constantly gets beat. I wouldn't let him cover my food while I go to the restroom.

 

This is true only if Norman hasn't gotten any better.  If he hasn't learned anything from last year and is no better, he absolutely needs to be on the bench.  I don't expect that to be the case though.  CB isn't the easiest transition to the pros.  Most CBs struggle early.  Two years ago Patrick Peterson was a terrible CB.  Last year Claiborne wasn't very good.  CB isn't a position that guys usually come in completely NFL ready.  If Norman progresses, he's our best option to be a starting CB.  Captain is a solid player, an above average nickel, but he just isn't good enough or big enough to cover most NFL WRs.

 

And I half blame the Bears fiasco on Rivera.  It seemed the coverage that was called demanded the sort of off-play that Norman got burnt on so much.  Rivera (or one of the more experienced players) should have fixed that after the first quick slant to Marshall. 

 

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TNPanther    2,387

Great potential he has. But there was a reason he was a 5th round pick. He doesn't have the best speed and gets beat too often.

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Seltzer    1,391

I was surprised Gamble retired although he seemed to not really to be into playing in 2009 and 2010 and he play showed.

He seemed resurgent (and the stats bore it out in 2011).

He would probably gotten at least 3-4 million on the open market even at his age & coming off an injury.

Glad we never had to see him play for anybody else. One of the more under appreciated players of the last decades. Deserved at least a couple of Pro Bowls.

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JawnyBlaze    5,246

This is a guy who ill only buy into the hype once I see it during games, he was so frustrating to me last year I still resent him playing so soft on receivers. Playing off so far is just like your giving them the first down

 

Yea, for sure.  That soft poo was annoying.  I wonder if he was told not to press and play tight or was just afraid of getting burned and played that way on his own.  I dunno, but I hope he fixes it.  His arms are so long he'd be great at jamming WR and disrupting their route.

 

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Normans been playing in nickel formations. I'm not sure if Cap is sliding over and playing the nick (like last season) while Norman plays the outside. Or if he's actually playing the nick back.

 

That's interesting, Norman doesn't have great speed and the player the nickel usually covers the slot receiver.

 

Maybe they think that Norman can jam the little'r receivers.

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beastson    4,330

Norman is a physical corner who struggled in a zone scheme. Why yall acting like you didn't see last year and how we played

 

They just posted a thread about our defensive schemes 

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DaCityKats    1,262

That's interesting, Norman doesn't have great speed and the player the nickel usually covers the slot receiver.

 

Maybe they think that Norman can jam the little'r receivers.

 

i think in the nickel he comes in and plays outside, while pushing Captain into the slot. also im glad you mentioned we jumped into a prevent/ cover 4 look on that last bears drive which was beyond dumb especially when all they had to do was get into field goal position. again, after the first couple of plays, why the coaching staff didnt get the message to him to play closer or tighten up is beyond me.

 

also in the falcons game, we looked to be playing cover 2 on that deep ball to Roddy. which is why Norman allowed Roddy to get behind him, because he was no longer in his zone. he did run with the WR because no one else threaten his zone, but still that is the safetys zone.

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This teams best chance of winning is with Norman on the sidelines. I really don't get the obsession with him other than he's a loud mouth who constantly gets beat. I wouldn't let him cover my food while I go to the restroom.

 

It's the David Gettis factor. You see flashes of what he can do, he has the measurable, and his potential is through the roof. But regardless of all that, he's raw. Most raw talents don't make it big time.

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AceBoogie    7,337

You can't teach speed. I'll be the first to congratulate Norman if he turns it around this year, he's a panther so I don't want him to fail, but he was noticeably awful last year. It seemed like every qb had the same scouting report "throw it to the receiver being covered by norman." When Rivera's job was at stake he sat him down. Having the tools is one thing but remember what Charles Johnson said last year about some players not preparing. He seemed to be talking about Norman. I hope he proves me wrong I really do, but I'd take Captain any day of the week. He may be smaller but he made a lot of key plays last season.

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It's tough to say what Norman is at this moment. He struggled during his rookie season (as do many corners) but he possesses intriguing measurables. If he struggles again at corner this season, I say make him a safety.

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Great potential he has. But there was a reason he was a 5th round pick. He doesn't have the best speed and gets beat too often.

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pantherj    2,167

Ah yes the horror of the Bears game. That was the game that convinced me that RR thought our secondary was the worst he'd ever seen. RR - "Naka you go to the concession stands and wait there as our last line of defense. Norman don't even try to cover anyone, just give a 7 yard cushion, let them have anything they want just so long as you have depth and can come up and tackle them after the catch." We have some $$$$, and I'll bet RR is all over Gettleman to find a CB. I'm still in shock we didn't draft one high. It's such a shame that Gamble was due so much money and was ready to retire. That guy could backpedal as well as any CB I've ever seen, stop on a dime, and anticipate the receiver's break like he was reading his mind. You're missed Gamble.

 

 

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