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Cam and Joe Adams posing for the camera.

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lol... Here is the breakdown.

A little over 4 minutes....Cam is standing by Rivera watching and goes nuts for Jimmy running for a first.

Cam remains front row watching 3rd stringers.

A timeout at 3:20

Cam still standing up front with coaches.

Time out gets long and camera comes up to him ...Cam has fun

Davis was clearly being a part pooper....but who cares.

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Well if TD was really going after Cam for having a little fun, then I hope he's there telling Smith to cut it out after his usual scuffle with a CB every game, or when he's spinning the ball after almost every catch.  I hope he's there telling D-Lo and Stew to knock it off after they score and do the matrix dance, and I hope he's there after Tolbert is there doing the dougie after every score.

 

I understand what you and others are saying, but, like it or not, Cam is held to a different standard. He is not only the QB of a pro franchise, but he came into the league as arguably the most scrutinized and/or criticized QB ever. This criticism and scrutiny, right or wrong, carried over into the first couple of years into Cam's NFL career. As such, it may be prudent for him to be a bit more cautious about his public and/or professional actions.  Right or wrong, this is probably the reality.  Comparing him to other players, and even other QBs (in a sense), on some level is comparing akin to comparing apples to oranges.

 

Like I have said a couple of other times in the thread, I am not going to judge TD, Cam or Adams too harshly. They are just at different point in their careers, lives and experiences, and may not see things eye to eye, so a little consternation, celebration, or consternation of celebration is not surprising in this situation. And, at the same time, it's not really a big deal. It's just food for thought on a message board.

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Cam was joking around for the camera with Gross too. Gross took part in it and was posing with Newton. 4 quarter 13 minute mark if anyone doesn't believe me.

4th quarter of the first pre season game in which they were winning. These guys were having fun. Y'all need to let them breathe.

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Why is Vince Young even in this conversation now again? Nevermind, I'm not even going to touch that.

 

I think you are minimizing the local media response he receives here. The Hello Kitty idiocy comes to mind.

 

Bottom line is, he is just a 24 year old guy. If people could get their heads out of their asses and accept it him instead of simply tolerating him. It'd be great. I don't see that happening anytime soon though unfortunately.

 

Because Vince Young flaked out and let booing fans get to him.  That was the start of his downfall.  His career is in the toilet in large part because he didn't have the fortitude to handle the pressure.

 

And now you're suggesting Newton would be justified in leaving the Panthers because local media or a small percentage of the fanbase have negative opinions of him?  Sorry, I think that's silly.

 

Letting negative fan reaction or media affect your game play or your career decisions is a sign of a pretty weak minded, thin skinned person.  Add in that it's a ridiculously stupid reason to alter your career path.

 

That's Vince Young.  I don't believe it's Newton.  Newton, has in fact, been critical of Young for his behavior.

 

Newton's highly paid (likely soon to be more so) he's popular, plays on a team that many believe to be on the rise, and is poised to break into the NFL's elite with a solid season.  A year from now the world could be his oyster.

 

If, in the middle of all that, he'd be pissed about what some fans or media types said about him, that'd be pretty pathetic.  Why should he give an airborne rodent's buttocks about any of that in his position?

 

And if he leaves Charlotte, it ought to be for a much better reason than that.

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I am no expert lip reader....

Look like Davis tapped him and you could read his lips but it didn't look Cam could even here it....

Then Davis said possibly "act cool". Cam gives him almost a WTF look at him having something up his rear.....shrugs it off and looks at the camera saying" he's a ham" and goes back to watching from up front.

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I am no expert lip reader....

Look like Davis tapped him and you could read his lips but it didn't look Cam could even here it....

Then Davis said possibly "act cool". Cam gives him almost a WTF look at him having something up his rear.....shrugs it off and looks at the camera saying" he's a ham" and goes back to watching from up front.

Cam says "he a hater man"

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Good thing TD's opinion on what Cam should be doing doesn't matter.

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Because Vince Young flaked out and let booing fans get to him.  That was the start of his downfall.  His career is in the toilet in large part because he didn't have the fortitude to handle the pressure.

 

Letting negative fan reaction or media affect your game play or your career decisions is a sign of a pretty weak minded, thin skinned person.  Add in that it's a ridiculously stupid reason to alter your career path.

 

That's Vince Young.  I don't believe it's Newton.  Newton, has in fact, been critical of Young for his behavior.

 

Newton's highly paid (likely soon to be more so) he's popular, plays on a team that many believe to be on the rise, and is poised to break into the NFL's elite with a solid season.  A year from now the world could be his oyster.

 

If, in the middle of all that, he'd be pissed about what some fans or media types said about him, that'd be pretty pathetic.

 

Just me, but I see no reason to bring Young into this. Completely different guy, and circumstances.

 

For the most part it seems Cam has done a good job of tuning all this out, going back to college even. I do not want to see him leave, but I am not going to cover my eyes and ears, and pretend everyone loves him.

 

We never really agree on much of anything lol, so I'm not surprised we don't see eye to eye on this.

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Does anyone even know what TD was saying?

 

I mean hell, for all we know he told Cam, "I strike a better pose than you"

 

 

Frankly, its the preseason, Cam has seemingly made strides in being more vocal as a leader and will still have his fun.  This? In the preseason?  I personally don't really give a poo about and I doubt TD was reprimanding him. 

This

 

Does anybody even know what TD said??

 

Are we really having a dispute over something that may or may not be nothing?? 

 

Sounds like a lot arm chair GM's / Jr Psychologist making assumption from a couch.

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Good thing TD's opinion on what Cam should be doing doesn't matter.

 

Disagree with you there.

 

Teammate opinions - especially those of a guy as highly respected as Thomas Davis - most definitely matter.

 

Fan opinions don't mean jack.  Media opinions change based on whether you win or not.  But as much as possible, you absolutely want the good will of your teammates, especially if you want to be a leader.

 

I don't really think Davis was making a big deal of anything, but whatever he does have to say most definitely matters.

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exactly. A couple people say they saw it and didn't like it. but no big deal. then other people are like omg stop overreacting! Jesus can Cam not joke around on the SIDELINES! THIS FRANCHISE DOESN"T DESERVE A FRANCHISE QB!!!!! YOUR BEING JUST LIKE ESPN AND NFL NETWORK. JESUS WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE."

 

oh the irony.

 

You can quote me if you like, you don't have to beat around the bush.

 

Stop being so hateful.

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