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In Peyton's 4th season he was 6-10 as a starter, had a similar TD%, and a worse INT% as Cam this season.

Brees after his third season was essentially run out of SD.

The year Eli won his first Super Bowl in his fouth season near the end of the season the NY Post called him Eli the Terrible after a couple of bad games and losses that made their playoff chances unlikely.

There are numerous other examples

Most QBs don't start really clicking until around their 5th or 6th season.

The idea that Cam should be good enough to win in spite of the surrounding cast is something that most QBs in history couldn't do by this point in their careers.

As I have said before, we need to surround him with people who will make him look better than he really is until he has the experience to make them look better than they really are.

Doesn't mean that Cam will be as good as those guys, but he is going to be a lot better than he is right now, and he is pretty damn good (albeit short of elite) already.

 

Okay be real, you cant just skip over Peytons 13 and 10 win season just to get to his 6 win season. Tom Brady, lol, he only won the dang super bowl his first real season. Drew may have been run out, but his team had a 12-4 record and it was all because they spent their first overall pick on Rivers that he got "run out". Eli? Who cares what the NY post said about him, he won the super bowl. Would you care if ESPN slammed Cam if he had us at 3-1? Especially if he was busy winning us super bowls?

 

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I think that by now he should lifting us up somewhat. It truly is not all on him. One game we put up 7 points and another game we put only 6 points. Part of that should certainly be on Cam. Our only win? Against the Giants of all teams and it doesn't get much worse (Jags), thank God we didn't lose that.

 

Idk, I've campaigned hard for Cam the past two years but felt like now is the time we start talking about wins, not stats. Again, I ask how long do we wait for the winning?

 

I guess I'm impatient, with so much losing this team is accustomed to. One playoff game since 2006... is that really acceptable? I know you don't think that. I'm ready to win now... it's just old all the losing ugh.

 

 

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Are you blaming the Seattle loss, where we never got the ball back after DWill (NOT Cam) fumbled the ball, on Cam? Or the Bills game where our defense allowed a rookie to drive right down the field in the last minute?

 

Anyways

 

Andrew Luck 5 games, 9TD and 62% comp

R Wilson 5 games, 8TD and 58% comp

Cam Newton 4 games, 7TD and 58% comp

 

None of those three are superior stats, but the difference is that two out of those have winning teams. I would argue that their teams are winning despite their stats.

 

I do think Cam could have played better, but it should be pretty obvious I'm much more saying that Russel finds ways to win the game for his team.

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The media desire to ruin Cam is in full swing. Last year, around this time he was in a "slump." Now, he's worst than the two new Rookies. By this time next year, Cam should be forced out of the NFL. In the meantime, the Jags will still be trying to helping the media chosen QB, Blaine Gabbert fix his accuracy and footwork issues.

BTW, I wonder how is Luck's accuracy and footwork? Amazing how his QB mecganics aren't made into big issues everytime he throws a bad ball.

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Blame the media, blame the supporting cast, blame the fans, blame the coaches, blame whomever, but most importantly..DON'T BLAME CAM!! for anything..

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but it should be pretty obvious I'm much more saying that Russel finds ways to win the game for his team.

 

 

I guess you didn't see the recent Seahawks/Colts game where Wilson threw a game ending interception while his team was driving down the field only needing a touchdown to win. All quarterbacks are capable of making mistakes, and having bad games. Simple fact.

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Blame the media, blame the supporting cast, blame the fans, blame the coaches, blame whomever, but most importantly..DON'T BLAME CAM!! for anything..

It is nice to see some people still throwing out this straw man argument that no one has ever said.

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27 total TDs 12 INTs. Cam also is on pace for 28 TDs this season.

TOTaL TDs.. don't account for much when Cam's running the ball inside the 5 yard line (we have rbs that can do this)

 

passing Tds on the other hand, shows you how much he still need to grow as a QB..

otherwise, we might as well use him for a rb.. that's what he best at..

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Comparing Cam to Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck's stats are telling...I would then say that 2 of the 3 quarterbacks show better team leadership. 

 

Humility is something our team needs to discover and realize that this is a team sport. 

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Is Cam getting bad or do we lack talent? Det has Megatron, we saw what happened when they played GB without him. Matty Ice has Julio, Brees; Graham etc etc.

 

Is there any target on our team that we can call ELITE?

 

Please stop making sense on this site.

 

You know folks only believe two things...Cam should do it all. And "we've got Smitty." The Panthers are fine as far as they are concerned because of those two fantasies.

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TOTaL TDs.. don't account for much when Cam's running the ball inside the 5 yard line (we have rbs that can do this)

 

passing Tds on the other hand, shows you how much he still need to grow as a QB..

otherwise, we might as well use him for a rb.. that's what he best at..

Who is he passing it too?

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Cam Newton year 2:

27 total TDs 12 INTs. Cam also is on pace for 28 TDs this season.

So what is your point?

My point was that the natural progression of QBs is one of fits and starts. Fast forward on more year for Peyton and Brees and what happens?

Peyton has a rough aeason in year 4 with a higher INT% than Cam has ever had in his career and was 6-10.

Brees that next season was run out of town. By the way, i think you actually mean Brees' third year as a starter, because actually his third year in the league he was 2-9 in 11 starts and also had a higher INT rate than Cam has ever had in his career and had more INTs than TDs. He was then run out of SD after his 5th season in the league.

They aren't the only examples, but Cam is doing fine. He is where he should be. But he isn't good enough yet where he should be asked to carry the team. Just like those guys shouldn't have been asked to and just like those guys couldn't do early in their careers.

 

Especially a team where fans aren't willing to deal with reality.

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Who is he passing it too?

 

get ready for the tom brady analogy

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