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JR is starting to look very smart when he decided to keep Rivera just one more year.

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#61 The Other Colbert

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 12:18 PM



Some one tell me the story of the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot!


I love that one.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:10 PM

I get it, this is just like the time JR strategically purged the roster in 2010 so we would be ahead of the curve when rebuilding


I guess we got lost in the mountains.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:14 PM

this thread is now much better than the OP and i also am tempted to go buy a cheap-ass joystick and find my old copy of combat flight simulator


how about ST history?


In 2363, the Yamato finished construction at Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards and was subsequently launched under the command of Captain Donald Varley. The Yamato was the second Galaxy-class starship in the line.

Two years later, the Yamato encountered a probe that transmitted an Iconian computer virus. The virus ran rampant throughout the ship's systems, triggering a matter/antimatter control system failure, destroying the ship in the Romulan Neutral Zone. All hands were lost. (TNG: "Contagion")





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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:31 PM

Strongly Likely.... Just how strong or likely is that?

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 01:39 PM

JR has done nothing but kick the can down the road for the last 6 years. He's starting to make Danny boy Snyder look good.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:15 PM

I was glancing over the list of all 32 teams at work today, one thing that hasnt been brought up yet and is a silver lining in my book is the fact that it appears as though not many other teams will be firing their HC after this season. Why does this matter? Its because there wont be much competition among a lot of teams in hiring a new HC which works to our advantage. Furthermore, the teams that do look as though will fire their HC this season arent big market teams that would be highly desireable for HC candidates. Here is a list of the teams that could possibly fire their HC after this season.

Im going to rate each team's chances of parting with their HC as strongly likely, somewhat likely and not likely on who I think gets fired after the season.

Pittsburgh Steelers- Mike Tomlin isnt going anywhere, he will get another year and be given the benefit of the doubt. Playoff and SB appearances buys this kind of leverage for a HC like this to stick around another year despite a abysmal season. Todd Haley's future as a OC for the Steelers on the other hand look bad and expect him to be the sacrificial lamb. Chances Mike Tomlin gets fired; Not Likely.

New York Giants- See Steelers above. Two Super Bowls in the last 5 years, multiple playoff appearances. Unless Coughlin retires hes not going anywhere. Chances Tom Coughlin gets fired; Not Likely.

Tennesse Titans- The future was looking bright for the Titans before. Locker went down with injury. Mike. Munchak was hired the same year as Rivera and much like Rivera last season, it took days for the Titans owner to decided Munchak would come back another year. I dont see the Titans come out of this season with a winning record and into the playoffs. Chances Munchak gets fired; Strongly likely.

Jacksonville Jaguars- Gus Bradley and the new GM are rebuilding the old fashion way and I imagine both Gus and Kleim have a gentleman's agreement that Gus wont go anywhere no matter what considering this is his first year as HC for a franchise in a deep rebuild, he wont go anywhere. Chances Gus Bradley gets fired; Not Likely.

Tampay Bay Buccaneers- Ahh the Sideshow circus that is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Its sink or swim over in Tampa Bay and now Glennon and Greg Schiano are joined at the hip. The players hate Schiano and this team is going nowhere fast with Schiano at the helm. Chances Greg Schiano gets fired; Strongly likely.

Minnesota Vikings- Despite the Vikings having a disappointing season so far I highly dobut Frazier gets fired coming off a suprising 10-6 season with his star RB winning MVP all this despite Christian Ponder under center. Chances Leslie Frazier gets fired; Not likely.

As it stands now, the only HCs I see as almost a lock to get fired (Besides Ron Rivera ofcourse) is Mike Munchak and Greg Schiano. Two other HCs that could be let go are Mike Shanahan and Dennis Allen. I dont think Shanahan goes anywhere because of RGIII and coming off a 9-7 playoff season last season. Looking back, we all wanted Rivera fired last season. But considering how last season saw a record amount of HC openings, it seems like now JR waited a week to make his decision because he was testing the market.

JR knew with desireable, big market teams like San Diego, Philly and Chicago having HC openings last season that the Panthers would be at a competitve disadvantage and it definately appears JR will have more leverage and less competition after this season and can really entice a good HC candidate due to the fact that a lot less desireable teams than us will have HC openings this go around.


I see this idea as a major stretch. This seems more like coincidence to me than JR actively planning this. JR couldn't have known which teams would fire their coaches a year after he was making decision to keep Rivera or not.


Most didn't anticipate the Bucs imploding this year. Most didn't expect the Steelers to have the poor year they've had so far. No one expected the Giants to suck either. I suppose you may have a point about franchises like San Diego, Chicago, and Philly being more attractive spots for unemployed coaches than we are last offseason, but beyond that I think you're assuming way too much.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 10:46 PM

I don't know what the OP is on but JR is just not interested in investing in quality.


He could've axed Rivera and brought in Lovie Smith. I'm not a big fan of Lovie Smith but he's a guy who coached and won football games and led a team to the Super Bowl.


And we know JR isn't going to get a high profile coach out of college.


He's going to bring in an assistant and give him his first big break and pray that it works.  It worked well for Fox and the big time signing of Siefert was basically a failure, although I enjoyed watching his teams play, which is much more than I can say about the current Panties.



#68 Snake


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:09 PM

Hopefully DG is better at picking coaches than Hurney.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:33 PM

Jerry smart. CharlottePanter smarter.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 11:46 PM

^ fascinating, i did not know that.


Q2: In a solo dogfight with a Japanese Mitsubishi A6M "Zero" would you be better equipped with a Grumman Wildcat or Hellcat?


(random extra pie awarded for correct answer and accompanying commentary as it's a difficult answer)


This is a bit of a trick question, it really depends on what model of Zero I'd be facing. Against the earlier A6M models (up to A6M4) the F4F might be more optimal due to superior mobility while still being faster than the Zeros of its day. However once you get to the A6M5 the improved speed marginalizes any advantage the F4F had and alone they would stand little chance as the Zero was just faster and more maneuverable at that point. The F6F comes into its own here as it can punish the Zero's slow roll rate and comparative speed much like Fw 190s did to the Allied planes when they first appeared.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:26 AM

Since when is San Diego a "big market team" ?