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#1 CharlottePanther

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:52 PM

First and foremost, let me say this is in no way a thread saying I am against hiring a OC or offensive minded HC next season. If he is the right guy for the job, I am very much for hiring a OC. But what I am saying is I strongly disagree with this notion that some Panther fans have that "we need to hire a offensive guru to grow with Cam as our next HC." Or "Its OC or bust!" While I understand in these dire times in Panther land, a lot of fans want complete change and want us to hire a OC just for the sake of changing things up, but looking at this objectively, im not so sure im sold on that and here is why.

Former DCs;

Bill Bellicheck/Tom Brady
Mike Tomlin/Ben Roethlisberger
Pete Carroll/Russell Wilson
John Harbaugh/Joe Flacco
Tony Dungy/Peyton Manning
Marvin Lewis/Andy Dalton
John Fox/Peyton Manning
Chuck Pagano/Andrew Luck
Mike Smith/Matt Ryan

Former OCs
Mike Mccarthy/Aaron Rodgers
Gary Kubiak/Matt Schaub
Sean Payton/Drew Brees
Tom Coughlin/Eli Manning

So whats my point? What am I trying to say? My point is this, I know a lot of fans are saying we must hire a OC that grow with Cam and while in theory this does make sense, I am just not sold on the notion that we HAVE to hire a offensive minded HC for Cam to have any future success. As Bill Bellicheck, Chuck Pagano, Pete Carroll and Tony Dungy can back up, the bottom line is you can still have a dynamic, franchise QB and explosive QB with a defensive minded HC. My bottom line to this is, I dont want us to reach for a offensive minded HC just for the sole purpose of change. I will be completely fine with another defensive coordinator aslong as he proves to be a very solid HC candidate.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:55 PM

We need coaches that have spines and brains. That's all I ask for. Tough and clever

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:59 PM

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:01 PM

I agree completely. I don't understand why people automatically think that just because Rivera was/is bad does not mean all defensive minded coaches will make bad HCs. History has shown otherwise.

That said, I would not be shocked if we looked at guys like Mike Zimmer and maybe a dark horse like Dan Quinn

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:01 PM

We need coaches that have spines and brains. That's all I ask for. Tough and clever


Exactly. I know noone agrees with me but I really wouldnt mind Rob Ryan. Yes I know its not a flashy, sexy college HC and yes I know his brother is Rex Ryan but I read article on him today and about how he worked under Bill Bellicheck he learned A LOT about the importance of adjustments and adapting to flow of the game in real time and coaching toward more different sitautions as opposed to just Xs and Os and it was a very intresting read. Thats like the anti Rivera way of doing things.

He took a absolutely horrid Saints D ranked 32nd last season and turned that D around to a championship caliber defense in just a matter of months. I watched interviews he did recently and he is nothing like Rex as far as being overly dramatic. Id love seeing Rob Ryan as our next HC. Not only that but Id also love nothing more than screwing over the Saints in a big way.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:04 PM

Exactly. I know noone agrees with me but I really wouldnt mind Rob Ryan. Yes I know its not a flashy, sexy college HC and yes I know his brother is Rex Ryan but I read article on him today and about how he worked under Bill Bellicheck he learned A LOT about the importance of adjustments and adapting to flow of the game in real time and coaching toward more different sitautions as opposed to just Xs and Os and it was a very intresting read. Thats like the anti Rivera way of doing things.

He took a absolutely horrid Saints D ranked 32nd last season and turned that D around to a championship caliber defense in just a matter of months. I watched interviews he did recently and he is nothing like Rex as far as being overly dramatic. Id love seeing Rob Ryan as our next HC. Not only that but Id also love nothing more than screwing over the Saints in a big way.


The problem isn't our defense though and I would be too afraid he would come in and change it to a 3/4 Defense when things are starting to gel with our 4/3 Defense

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:07 PM

I think we need someone with a flexible offensive philosophy.  If we get someone with a my way or the highway mentality, and an offensive philosophy that is incompatible with our qb, then he will likely be another 3 year and out guy. 



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:10 PM

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:13 PM

true but it would benefit Cam if we had a OC at HC, so the offense would be consistent.......had a top dfense last year yet Sean didn't get any HC offers Chud did however....but if you feel Rivera is in charge of the dfense that would make sense also.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:16 PM

I thought Rivera was gonna be a good coach when we hired him so I am disqualified from this thread.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:19 PM

We will hire an offensive coach and everybody will be happy.

The next year our offense will be good while our defense blows and everybody will blame Gettleman for firing our old coaches.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:27 PM

I don't care if he is offensive minded, defensive minded, or special teams minded.

I just want a guy who can coach and can create an identity for this team.

I don't care if we go 90 miles per hour, or ground and pound and try to grind out wins. I just want to be efficient and for the team to buy into what the coach is selling them.

Although I will say that I would prefer a guy with head coaching experience whether that be college or a retread.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:28 PM

I don't care if our next head coach was a ST's coordinator. He just needs to be able to do the one thing he is hired to do, coach.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:32 PM

something tells me gettledude aready knows his next coach...



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:34 PM

something tells me gettledude aready knows his next coach...


I think it's going to me somebody from the Coughlin tree :-(


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