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#31 Mr. Scot

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:59 AM

I'd say his passing on the run is about like his passing in general.  Looks spectacular on one play, substandard a few plays later.

 

As has been said many times, gunslingers like Newton are rarely consistent with their ball placement.  You coach them to be as accurate as possible, but you're never going to make a Tom Brady / Aaron Rodgers pinpoint deadeye passer out of this type of quarterback (Favre was scattershot right up to the end).

 

What you're shooting for with a gunslinger is for more of the balls to be catchable than not.  If you can get that and combine it with receivers who are good at adjusting to the ball, you can win a lot of games.

 

That's the goal.



#32 KendrickPanther

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:07 AM

Yeah MrScot, I would love to see us get that Plaxico type receiver with the wing span. A giant target area with good hands. Those guys are hard to find and hard to pay but I think Cam's game would improve greatly with that kind of guy.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:18 AM

Plaxico: 6'5" 232 4.59

Mike Evans: 6'5" 225 4.58

 

Evans is a perfect fit for Cam.



#34 Mr. Scot

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:22 AM

Yeah MrScot, I would love to see us get that Plaxico type receiver with the wing span. A giant target area with good hands. Those guys are hard to find and hard to pay but I think Cam's game would improve greatly with that kind of guy.


One major difference from Plaxico: I'd prefer one with a functioning brain.

Gives me an idea though...

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 04:32 AM

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So, yea. He's just an inconsistent passer. The percentage of erratic throws probably increases when he leaves the pocket because it is a much more difficult throw to make. Throwing on the run is something that can be practiced though.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:01 AM

Russell Wilson is incredible at running and keeping track of the routes, using his vision and making the throw. I imagine it's something they work on a ton because he is a true scrambler. Cam doesn't "scramble" well. He runs well and he throws well but he's very average when you put the two together. The one thing I would love to see Cam take from Wilson's game is to throw the ball in the dirt when he doesn't have a play. Sometimes he gets away but most of the time he throws a pick or takes a bad sack when he tries to make a play.

Russell Wilson is this generation's Fran Tarkenton. 

 

For those of you who didn't get to watch him play, Tarkenton was an amazing scrambler.  He'd run around back there for about 50 yards sometimes trying to avoid the pass rush...then somehow, find a way to get the ball to a receiver.  It was really something to see.  To this day, I still haven't seen anyone run around as much as he did, but Wilson probably comes the closest.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:35 AM

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So, yea. He's just an inconsistent passer. The percentage of erratic throws probably increases when he leaves the pocket because it is a much more difficult throw to make. Throwing on the run is something that can be practiced though.

 

Just a heads up, that second link is broken.  But pie for the first gif, haven't seen that play since the actual game... damn, I forgot how far back he was from the endzone.  That throw is impressive as fug considering the distance, accuracy, and it being on the run.

 

Edit: Nevermind on the link being broken... it wasn't working for me at first.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 09:16 AM

Can't compare Cam, or anyone else for that matter, to Wilson on throwing on the run. Been watching football for 30+ years. I can't remember a QB that could throw on the run as well as Wilson. He's still young, but has the potential to be the GOAT throwing on the run.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:07 PM

The best Pass Ive seen from Cam was a scramble,..not a bootleg though. It was the scramble against the Taints last year...where Cam scrambled, jumped straight up and toss a 60 yd bomb to Smitty. We all know Smitty made a great catch and then was cheapshotted by Roman Harper. Think about that...jump straight up and launch a laser 60 yards all arm no body..that is incredible and I doubt any other qb can do that.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:17 AM

Can't compare Cam, or anyone else for that matter, to Wilson on throwing on the run. Been watching football for 30+ years. I can't remember a QB that could throw on the run as well as Wilson. He's still young, but has the potential to be the GOAT throwing on the run.

 

 

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:18 AM

Sheesh and calling Cam a gun slinger is really slinging some BS. 



#42 Dick the Butcher

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:16 AM

I would have to agree with the OP.  While Cam lands a few every now and again, it is more often than not that the ball sails on him.  Luckily for us, it really isn't THAT important he be able to throw on the run.  I mean, what percentage of passes come on either designed bootlegs or are a product of escaping the pass rush?  I would venture to say that percentage is low.  Passing from the pocket and running when necessary is what wins the games.  Though, I do wish Cam wasn't as clumsy running the ball; seems he is always tripping or slipping on the grass.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:41 AM

i think Wilson baseball background has helped him become one of the better QBs that throw while running.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 10:12 AM

I would have to agree with the OP.  While Cam lands a few every now and again, it is more often than not that the ball sails on him.  Luckily for us, it really isn't THAT important he be able to throw on the run.  I mean, what percentage of passes come on either designed bootlegs or are a product of escaping the pass rush?  I would venture to say that percentage is low.  Passing from the pocket and running when necessary is what wins the games.  Though, I do wish Cam wasn't as clumsy running the ball; seems he is always tripping or slipping on the grass.

 

 

I think this is the point that the OP was alluding to.

 

If Cam were a better thrower on the run, then we could open up the playbook, and scare the crap out of opposing D's.

 

Like most NFL QB's, Cam isn't great throwing on the run....it's freaking hard, but he is better than most if only because of the arm strength.

 

He will get better at this as he matures though, and then it's game on.



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Posted 19 October 2013 - 10:44 AM

He's not bad, not great/amazing.

 

Wilson can make some insane throws on the run. 

 

That one against us was one of the most ridiculous football plays I have seen.




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