Jump to content





Photo
- - - - -

Panthers WR Marvin McNutt


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
31 replies to this topic

#25 PhillyB

PhillyB

    sườn núi phía đông thứ ba của mặt trời

  • Joined: 29-November 08
  • posts: 23,792
  • Reputation: 20,033
SUPPORTER

Posted 02 November 2013 - 01:24 AM

I don't know why people think LaFell is such a horrible #2 wide receiver. He blocks, he catches the ball mostly, and he runs good routes. Smitty-Moose WR tandems don't fall out of the sky like gringos, and they aren't very commonplace in the NFL. If your #2 is the superstar y'all want him to be, he'll only be your #2 until his first contract opportunity, then he'll bolt to go somewhere else, which is exactly what Moose did here, and a slew of others have done over the history of the league. Greg Olsen is actually our #2 receiving option even though he's a TE, which makes LaFell #3, and Ginn #4. We could be doing a lot worse as far as receiving options go. Add in Tolbert who is a fuging bowling ball that catches really, really well out if the backfield, and you'll see Cam has a decent arsenal at his disposal.


he's not. mouth breathers that don't know anything about football but post loudly think roddy white/julio jones-type combos are the norm rather than the exception. lafell is squarely middle-of-the-pack as far as #2WRs in the NFL go. of course it'd be nice to see him separate with more consistency but it's not like he's the useless shitbird some make him out to be either

#26 top dawg

top dawg

    The Creative Cat

  • Joined: 11-December 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 9,684
  • Reputation: 3,684
HUDDLER

Posted 02 November 2013 - 10:19 AM

he's not. mouth breathers that don't know anything about football but post loudly think roddy white/julio jones-type combos are the norm rather than the exception. lafell is squarely middle-of-the-pack as far as #2WRs in the NFL go. of course it'd be nice to see him separate with more consistency but it's not like he's the useless shitbird some make him out to be either

 

I wouldn't exactly call myself a "mouth breather", and, yes, Jones-White may not be the norm, but I do believe this list means something (though I haven't quite figured out what):

 

Anquan Boldin  and Torrey Smith (and Dennis Pitta)

Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz (and Mario Manningham)

Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson (and James Jones and Donald Driver and Jermichael Finley)

Marques Colston and Lance Moore (and Jeremy Shockey and Devery Henderson)

Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes (and Nate Washington  and Heath Miller)

Plaxico Burress and Armani Toomer (and Jeremy Shockey)

 

 

Steve Smith and Brandon LaFell (And Tedd Ginn and Greg Olsen)?  I don't know. Maybe.

 

 

 

 



#27 Promethean Forerunner

Promethean Forerunner

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • Joined: 15-February 13
  • posts: 8,735
  • Reputation: 3,607
SUPPORTER

Posted 02 November 2013 - 10:33 AM

he's not. mouth breathers that don't know anything about football but post loudly think roddy white/julio jones-type combos are the norm rather than the exception. lafell is squarely middle-of-the-pack as far as #2WRs in the NFL go. of course it'd be nice to see him separate with more consistency but it's not like he's the useless shitbird some make him out to be either


Hey, I'd like to stay with LaFell instead of using a second or third rounder on another WR but Brandon is inconsistent as hell. It's either he drops drive/game-killing passes or he has a breakout game and disappears for what feels like a fort night.

I don't trust him.

#28 pantherclaw

pantherclaw

    Wise Ass

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • posts: 7,415
  • Reputation: 1,144
SUPPORTER

Posted 02 November 2013 - 11:06 AM

Does anyone know how Panthers new WR obtained from Miami's Practice squad is doing? With the right amount of coaching, I am wondering if he couldn't be a replacement for Lafell,if the need occurred.


ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS McNutt is reliable to get his hands on the ball and make a tough catch when it’s thrown anywhere near him. He has good awareness to get open on broken plays and drag his feet along the sidelines. He is a viable possession-type option for quarterbacks looking to pick up a quick first down.
WEAKNESSES McNutt can struggle when running routes across the middle. There are consistency and effort issues when blocking and running decoy routes that aren’t intended to him, and he can struggle off the line if he isn’t decisive and powerful with his first step.

http://www.nfl.com/c...nutt?id=2532909

his weaknesses make him the anti lafell

#29 SmashNDash

SmashNDash

    Junior Member

  • Joined: 04-December 08
  • PipPipPipPip
  • posts: 593
  • Reputation: 143
HUDDLER

Posted 02 November 2013 - 11:15 AM

Surprised there is more people clamoring for McNutt then there is Tavveres King.  I mean King actually got drafted this year, and had the Packers trying to steal him away to replace Cobb.



#30 Promethean Forerunner

Promethean Forerunner

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • Joined: 15-February 13
  • posts: 8,735
  • Reputation: 3,607
SUPPORTER

Posted 02 November 2013 - 12:52 PM

Surprised there is more people clamoring for McNutt then there is Tavveres King. I mean King actually got drafted this year, and had the Packers trying to steal him away to replace Cobb.


It'll be interesting to see him for sure, but I doubt King runs onto field until December. I'm not expecting much though. He appears to be the equivalent of Kearse from The Seahawks.

#31 PantherFanOne

PantherFanOne

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 29-July 10
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 3,174
  • Reputation: 689
HUDDLER

Posted 02 November 2013 - 03:25 PM

Here is some pre draft insight about King.

 

Analysis Strengths

Possesses the quickness off the line that helps him shake off press and fly by cornerbacks playing off-coverage. As a vertical threat, he can track the ball over either shoulder and grab the ball with his hands near his head. He also has elusiveness after the catch to free himself after a hitch route. The work on his upper body has paid off, as he can play through physical corners to get inside position when needed. Extremely fluid route runner, plays with tremendous balance and body control.

 

Weaknesses

Doesn't have ideal bulk. Dropped passes have been an issue for King during his career, and he doesn’t always find the ball in the air or go up to high-point passes downfield. Though he is quick and elusive, he’ll out-juke himself trying to make defenders miss in the open field. While is capable of making a block outside on quick screens, King also doesn’t offer consistent physicality.

 

NFL Comparison

Damian Williams

 

Bottom Line

King lacks tremendous size, and his hands have also been an issue at times, allowing potential big plays to slip through his fingers. However, he's a very fluid player, with impressive quickness and balance. He should be a mid-round selection.

 



#32 MHS831

MHS831

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 08-June 10
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 8,396
  • Reputation: 3,052
HUDDLER

Posted 03 November 2013 - 12:23 AM

The issue with Lafell (to me) is not his play right now---he is what he is.  The issue will be our willingness to pay him on  second contract.   He may be a good blocker, but he is not a guard--we want him to catch the ball consistently.