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#49 Panthro

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 01:39 PM

I just had some chicken parm instead of a salad.

 

Bad choice.

 

 



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 03:09 PM

I didn't say that at all, but you cannot say that ALL fat people are fat because of their own doing. It's simply not true.


Sure it is. You do realize that you're implying that it is literally impossible for some people to lose weight? That's a ridiculous concept, especially considering that being obese is not a natural state of being for the human body. Anyone can lose weight if they really want to. Sounds like someone's just making excuses.



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 03:42 PM

Sure it is. You do realize that you're implying that it is literally impossible for some people to lose weight? That's a ridiculous concept, especially considering that being obese is not a natural state of being for the human body. Anyone can lose weight if they really want to. Sounds like someone's just making excuses.

 

Many conditions are "not a natural state of being for the human body." Doesn't mean someone can just will or diet them away.

 

I'm not making excuses at all ... I never said I have any of the medical conditions I referenced, and I already acknowledged my own "fatness" in this thread. I just know it's not as simple as you and Zod say for many people, but then, judgmental people like you see thigs in black and white -- or in this case, fat and skinny.



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 04:06 PM

It's pretty much possible for anyone to lose weight.

 

That doesn't mean it's possible for anyone to be "skinny."  Nor should everyone.  But fit and skinny are NOT the same thing.



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 05:47 AM

Why do 100% of gastric bypasses work?



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 05:55 AM

Many conditions are "not a natural state of being for the human body." Doesn't mean someone can just will or diet them away.

 

I'm not making excuses at all ... I never said I have any of the medical conditions I referenced, and I already acknowledged my own "fatness" in this thread. I just know it's not as simple as you and Zod say for many people, but then, judgmental people like you see thigs in black and white -- or in this case, fat and skinny.

 

Stating physical facts is not me being judgmental. I am sure it is very difficult for a great many people to lose weight. You have not ever seen me crack a fat joke. I grew up a chubby kid and would be obese right now if I didn't make a life change when I was 25. I stopped eating and got moving.  People really struggle with eating more than they need to eat for lots of different reason, and this is the sole cause of such rampant morbid obesity in our country.

 

The sad part is people like to sugar coat and cloud the issues with irrelevant things and emotions. That doesn't help anyone. No one lost weight, increased their viability and lived a longer life because they were made to feel better about being morbidly obese by taking responsibility away from them.

 

As I just said, 100% of gastric bypasses work. 100% of people lose a ton of weight initially. The only thing it does is physically restricts people from eating too much. If there were other issues really at play, gastric bypass would only work for a fraction of the morbidly obese. But thats not the case. Everyone loses weight initially. Why do you think that is?



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 06:03 AM

everyone could be healthier if they gave a damn



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:22 AM

Why do 100% of gastric bypasses work?

 

They dont

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC1421028/

 

 

Of the 274 patients who underwent surgery in our clinic, 243 (88.6%) were followed up. Of these 243, 13 were classified as obese (BMI 36–39 kg/m2), 134 as morbidly obese (BMI 40–49 kg/m2), and 96 as super-obese (BMI > 50 kg/m2).

 

 

Although 60% of the obese and morbidly obese group achieved an excellent result, 33% were ranked as good and 7% had a final BMI > 35 kg/m2. The spread was even greater for the super-obese: 31% obtained a good result and 26% achieved an excellent result, and treatment failed in 43%. Therefore, the IGB succeeded in 93% of the obese or morbidly obese patients and in 57% of the super-obese patients.



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:27 AM

That's after a 5 year period when they fall back into bad eating habits. Initially 100% of people lose weight. But thanks for trying to poo on my point. :)

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:52 AM

That's after a 5 year period when they fall back into bad eating habits. Initially 100% of people lose weight. But thanks for trying to poo on my point. :)

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How can you go back to the same eating habits when your stomach holds a fraction of the food?



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:03 PM

I dont really care, its not 100% successful. Just read the damn study. 

 

 

Although the average result of IGB for morbidly obese patients is excellent, some obtain only a good result, and treatment fails for unexplained reasons in a few (7%). Likewise, the average result for the super-obese patients is good, but treatment fails in many (43%); surprisingly, 26% obtained an excellent result. These varying responses cannot be predicted before surgery, nor can they be explained after surgery at present. Genetic predisposition may be a significant factor.

 

Either way it doesnt really matter, the overwhelming majority of fat people are fat because they are lazy and eat poo.  Good news for the extra large clothes manufacturers



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 03:13 PM

How can you go back to the same eating habits when your stomach holds a fraction of the food?

 

Eventually it stretches back out. I have an aunt and cousin that did it. They lost a ton of weight at first, both are fat again now because they don't move, eat like crap, and drink alot.