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#16 carpanfan96

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 11:57 AM

Doby is absolutely our best goalie. Dude is amazing with his stick. Reflexes are great. Positioning is perfect the vast majority of the time. Has a knack for finding the puck at the last second when it comes through traffic.

Last night, the goals he gave up were almost entirely on the play in front of him. Every goalie is going to let some through. All goalies play better when they're not having to keep the team in the game by themselves. Sad part is, we really didn't play bad. Bobrovsky was absolutely stellar for Columbus. Dude is no joke. We skated as hard as we have all year and just couldn't get the goals. Game SHOULD have been 2-0, but that last goal came due to us just being caught with our pants down and tired. Wide open look at an angle, and Doby likes stepping out on those.


When Cam is healthy, I say throw him out there against the first weak opponent we have, hope he has a good game, and trade him. Get what we can get, because Doby is the future in net. There is no question there.

 

Ward's not going to get traded because of his contract, he's here for the long haul. The team has been looking to move Doby or Peters all year long and they've just been waiting for all three to be healthy. Whoever has the better trade value between Peters and Doby will be traded. That's been the plan for a while now. 



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 12:05 PM

Ward's not going to get traded because of his contract, he's here for the long haul. The team has been looking to move Doby or Peters all year long and they've just been waiting for all three to be healthy. Whoever has the better trade value between Peters and Doby will be traded. That's been the plan for a while now. 



Which fuging sucks. Ward is a bum. Flat out. I defended him the past few seasons. Vehemently. But now...I just can't do it. The guy is a shell of his former self and a hindrance to our success as a team.


Maybe in 8 years, once we're rid of Cam and we luck up with another solid goalie, we can get a Cup.



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 03:37 PM

If we trade Dobby. I'm done with the Canes.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 04:56 PM

Dobby's the easiest to trade of the three right now.  If he's hell bent on testing the FA market then why not get something for him now?



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 05:12 PM

Because we have a chance to get to the postseason for the first time in a long time and he gives you the best opportunity.

 

Justin Peters could probably fetch at least a fourth, possibly a third...

 

I don't see Ward being traded because I doubt Carolina wants to go into free agency without a goalie under contract (and Ward's contract is brutal). However they coudl decide to part from Ward... maybe send him (and Riley Nash) to the Oilers for Sam Gagner and a 2nd round pick... Then next year re-sign Dobby and bring up Altshuller.

 

Then for the rest of this season...

 

Jeff Skinner - Eric Staal - Alexander Semin

Nathan Gerbe - Jordan Staal - Elias Lindholm

Tuomo Ruutu - Sam Gagner - Jiri Tlusty

Patrick Dwyer - Manny Malhota - Radek Dvorak

Drayson Bowman

 

Andrej Sekera - Justin Faulk

Ron Hainsey - Brett Bellemore

John Michael-Liles - Jay Harrison

Mike Komisarek - Ryan Murphy

 

Anton Khudobin

Justin Peters



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 07:05 PM

Dobby's the easiest to trade of the three right now.  If he's hell bent on testing the FA market then why not get something for him now?


Cause we're close to the playoffs and Ward sucks d***

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 08:06 PM

I know trading Doby isn't what most fans would want, but Ward's contract makes him unmovable. Peters and Doby have been on the trading block all season long, with Doby being on fire. His value is the highest.  



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 08:18 PM

It doesn't matter if his value is the highest because it's clear that he is the best goaltender on the roster.

 

JR said he has built this team to be a consistent playoff team not a team with a top 10 pick every year.

 

Ward's contract also does not make him unmovable, it just makes him more difficult to move.

 

Khudobin might be the future starting goaltender of the Canes and people want to trade him!?!?

 

Idiotic.



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 09:14 PM

It doesn't matter if his value is the highest because it's clear that he is the best goaltender on the roster.

 

JR said he has built this team to be a consistent playoff team not a team with a top 10 pick every year.

 

Ward's contract also does not make him unmovable, it just makes him more difficult to move.

 

Khudobin might be the future starting goaltender of the Canes and people want to trade him!?!?

 

Idiotic.

 

 

Didn't say I wanted him traded, just why he's going to be the one that's traded. The team still has Ward listed as the #1 and Doby has been on the trade block all season long. 

 

Either way it goes, Peters or Doby will be traded not Ward. Ward when he comes back will most likely be the starter or at the very least split time with the one that isn't traded. 

 

 

As to why Ward isn't going to be traded and why his contract does indeed make him unmovable. 

 

Ward is in the top 4 among NHL goalies in yearly salary. The only goalies that make more then him are Rinne, Quick, and Luongo. On top of that, he's under contract till 2016. 

 

Not saying I wouldn't like Ward to be traded, but he's not going anywhere. On top of that the team isn't going to have the money to resign Doby if he does indeed want to hit the FA market. So best to get what you can now then to loose him for nothing in FA. 



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 09:22 PM

Personally... not saying this is the best option, because it's probably not.

 

I would see what the market is for Ward and take the best offer. It probably won't be much, like I previously mentioned Ward for Gagner... but I don't see Ward ever being a decent goaltender again.



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 11:59 PM

JR also has to think about the fanbase before he makes idiotic decisions

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:02 AM

I can almost guarantee if Dobby is traded and we stick with Ward as the starter, he will lose a really big chunk of the fanbase

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:43 AM

Trade Cam for a ham sandwich. We win that trade.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 03:58 AM

I can almost guarantee if Dobby is traded and we stick with Ward as the starter, he will lose a really big chunk of the fanbase

 

 

Not really much of an option at this point, if they trade Ward they don't have a goaltender for next season under contract. The team unless they move Ward won't have the money to resign Doby. So most likely you're looking at Ward and Peters/FA next season because of the cap situation with the team.

 

21 million to spend and 14 players to sign to fill out the roster next season. Down to 4 defensemen, 1 goalie and 8 forwards under contract next season. So unless they can find somewhere to move Ruutu or Ward, they don't have a lot of wiggle room to spend good money on Goalie past Ward next off season.

 

Doby is already all but gone based on the way he's played. 



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Posted 18 January 2014 - 11:26 PM

Doby looked really good tonight vs Flordia. Neither goal was directly on him, the first was the Defense for failing to clear. The second he had no chance on, too much traffic in front of him. 




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