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#101 Kevin Greene

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 08:58 PM

We're all wrong.... and nobody will know anything until the season finale next week.

 

I can't figure out why Marty's ex walks into the bar where Cohle is working to talk with him... wtf is that all about?

 

Cause Marty wouldn't answer the question if it was goodby?



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:07 PM

Cause Marty wouldn't answer the question if it was goodby?

 

Yea, that was kinda weird, too. But she looks like she's doing okay on her own.
 



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:18 PM

Yea, that was kinda weird, too. But she looks like she's doing okay on her own.
 

 

I kinda thought she thought Marty might be into something where he'd either be in jail or dead.



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:44 PM

Most concise theory I've read

"listen, i'm gonna keep this short. the case is the play. if you read it, it drives you mad, and you fuging die. hart and cohle are just one pair of investigators that have fallen victim to it. detectives key and peele are at the beginning of their own investigation (visiting the church with the black preacher) right now. they're the next to go mad. how many sets of dudes fell prey to this poo before hart and cohle? plenty. because time is a flat circle. the play/case has always existed. it will always exist, and it will always kill those who begin reading it. that's why it exists, to drive people mad. just like this show."

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 01:21 AM

Most concise theory I've read

"listen, i'm gonna keep this short. the case is the play. if you read it, it drives you mad, and you fuging die. hart and cohle are just one pair of investigators that have fallen victim to it. detectives key and peele are at the beginning of their own investigation (visiting the church with the black preacher) right now. they're the next to go mad. how many sets of dudes fell prey to this poo before hart and cohle? plenty. because time is a flat circle. the play/case has always existed. it will always exist, and it will always kill those who begin reading it. that's why it exists, to drive people mad. just like this show."

 

WOW.

 

I have to say, all things considered, I think that is how it is going to play out, I just would've written that out in like 8 more paragraphs, lol.

 

I was going to post my own theory that either Marty and/or his ex-wife is in on it, OR Marty is not in on it and either he or Rust are going to die in the finale.  I came to this conclusion after Marty's lack of conviction when asked why he left the force and because of the screwed up stuff with their oldest daughter.  And his wife has been suspect for awhile.  The way she used Rust was downright evil.  And for some reason, I kept thinking back to that initial argument Marty was having with her dad about society back in the first or second episode...  there was just something about it.

 

BUT, as the prediction you just posted mentioned, what really kept standing out to me was Rust saying the thing about his life is one big "circle" and the "death is not the end" stuff that the lady told him in this most recent episode.  Which again, goes back to when Ledoux told him life was a flat circle, to which Rust quoted to the investigators...  And at the end, the two new investigators drive off and the man with the scars on his face says, "My family's been around a LONG TIME."

 

I assume that is implying that they are somewhat immortal, and that they may feed off the souls that get trapped/lost in Carcosa.

 

 

 

 



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 07:26 AM

It would also fall in line with the Robert W Chambers book this show references "The King in Yellow" which is about a play that drives the reader mad.



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 10:05 AM

WOW.

 

I have to say, all things considered, I think that is how it is going to play out, I just would've written that out in like 8 more paragraphs, lol.

 

I was going to post my own theory that either Marty and/or his ex-wife is in on it, OR Marty is not in on it and either he or Rust are going to die in the finale.  I came to this conclusion after Marty's lack of conviction when asked why he left the force and because of the screwed up stuff with their oldest daughter.  And his wife has been suspect for awhile.  The way she used Rust was downright evil.  And for some reason, I kept thinking back to that initial argument Marty was having with her dad about society back in the first or second episode...  there was just something about it.

 

BUT, as the prediction you just posted mentioned, what really kept standing out to me was Rust saying the thing about his life is one big "circle" and the "death is not the end" stuff that the lady told him in this most recent episode.  Which again, goes back to when Ledoux told him life was a flat circle, to which Rust quoted to the investigators...  And at the end, the two new investigators drive off and the man with the scars on his face says, "My family's been around a LONG TIME."

 

I assume that is implying that they are somewhat immortal, and that they may feed off the souls that get trapped/lost in Carcosa.

 

 

 

This plays in to something I noticed and haven't seen brought up anywhere else.

 

 

The elderly black lady in this past episode worked for the Tuttle's in the 50's and 60's.  She mentioned the boy with the scars on his face.  That would make the man with the scars at least 50 years old in 2012.  The other victims also placed the Scar Man  around in 1988 and 1995.  The man on the lawnmower looks to me like he is in his 30's, maybe 40's, like he hasn't aged much at all.

 

Could be that he just has a young look to him.  Or maybe there is some sort of supernatural, anti-aging aspect to The Yellow King.



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 10:25 AM

I know there's tons to read out there, but this is some really good stuff.

http://popwatch.ew.c...-at-dreams-end/

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 02:26 PM

Just saw this in the comment section of an article:

 

"One of the cops that put that suicide back in his cell (the one that said 'Yellow King' in '02) has the surname, 'Childress'."

 

 

I've seen every episode at least two times now and each episode there are more and more clues that you can pick up on.  Just an attestation to the brillance of this series.

 

Nic Pizzolatto is the fuggin man. I can't wait to see what he does with True Detective next season.



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 02:39 PM

Another great article.  Do not read if you haven't caught up yet.

 

http://www.thedailyb...ou-ve-gone.html

 

 

Pizzolatto on some of the more "out there" theories going around:

 


“I’ve enjoyed reading people theorize about what’s going to happen because it’s a sign that you’re connecting,” Pizzolatto told me. “But I’m also sort of surprised by how far afield they’re getting. Like, why do you think we’re tricking you? It’s because you’ve been abused as an audience for more than 20 years. I cannot think of anything more insulting as an audience than to go through eight weeks, eight hours with these people, and then to be told it was a lie—that what you were seeing wasn’t really what was happening. The show’s not trying to outsmart you.”




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