Jump to content




Photo
* * * * * 1 votes

Here you go Zod: exact number of cam scrambles for first downs


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
52 replies to this topic

#13 Proudiddy

Proudiddy

    The Thread Killer (Since 2004)

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • posts: 17,715
  • Reputation: 5,631
Moderators

Posted 15 January 2014 - 04:59 PM

Smith was 2 years younger and had a phenomenal year plus shockey was a nice asset as well

Man, I almost forget about Shockey...

As far as Smitty, yeah, he did. But, I question how much he's lost physically since then versus how he's being used due to philosophical changes between Chud year one and now Shula.

#14 TN05

TN05

    HUDDLER

  • Joined: 03-December 13
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 1,482
  • Reputation: 906
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:13 PM

I'd like to see the numbers under both of Chud's years, particularly last year because we were ranked 18th that year as well.

#15 panther4life

panther4life

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,655
  • Reputation: 1,181
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:30 PM

Man, I almost forget about Shockey...

As far as Smitty, yeah, he did. But, I question how much he's lost physically since then versus how he's being used due to philosophical changes between Chud year one and now Shula.


I get what you're saying but even Smith himself has gone out of his way to publicly criticize Chud's approach amongst others.

#16 Sean Payton's Vicodin

Sean Payton's Vicodin

    Panthers lead college scout for o-linemen

  • Joined: 27-March 12
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 3,528
  • Reputation: 2,881
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:49 PM

camescape.gif

 

Also, poo like this is not counted as well. 



#17 Proudiddy

Proudiddy

    The Thread Killer (Since 2004)

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • posts: 17,715
  • Reputation: 5,631
Moderators

Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:52 PM

I get what you're saying but  even Smith himself has gone out of his was to  publicly criticized Chud's approach amongst others.

 

Yeah, but I also think there was more to that, as in Chud being an arrogant asshole.

 

We obviously won't know the answer, but I'm just wondering aloud.



#18 frash.exe

frash.exe

    Freddy Frashbear

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 15,280
  • Reputation: 5,872
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:53 PM

If you have a stat on cam's average time from snap to pass attempt I'd like to see it

#19 panther4life

panther4life

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,655
  • Reputation: 1,181
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:56 PM

If you have a stat on cam's average time from snap to pass attempt I'd like to see it

 

Attached Files

  • Attached File  qbs.png   405.85KB   24 downloads


#20 panther4life

panther4life

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,655
  • Reputation: 1,181
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 06:06 PM

Not going to post a 100 screen shots but heres some neat info.

 

I used a 50% of teams overall snaps qualifier so there was 26 total qbs listed.

 

 his 3.09  seconds was the third most "time to throw" defined as "the point until he attempts a throw, is sacked or scrambles past the line of scrimmage" (could be an inflated by his dancing in the pocket)

 

the 2.73 seconds it takes for him to attempt a pass is the 6th longest time.

 

the 4,63 seconds before he is sacked is the 2nd most time (granted he buys more time by dancing in the pocket and hard to decipher how much of that dancing is distracting him from finding an open target)

 

at 5.94 seconds Cam holds on the ball longer than anyone before deciding to scramble (except peyton who just doesent scramble past the line at all lol)

 

 

 

 

 

 



#21 frash.exe

frash.exe

    Freddy Frashbear

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 15,280
  • Reputation: 5,872
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 06:06 PM


Thanks for this

This is pretty symptomatic of a lack of weapons and/or slow developing routes

I want a talented big physical motherfuger that won't get jammed at the LOS by a defensive back and uses his body to maintain positioning. Anybody like that in this draft?

#22 pstall

pstall

    Gazebo Effect

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 23,931
  • Reputation: 3,141
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 06:13 PM

Its a ting and yang here. Cam holds longer than most but in reality why? We all know how slow the wrs are so run a little earlier. Yes here I go again with the bootleg. Now the db's has to cheat in some.
Do we even run pump fakes?
What % of passes are straight drop back vs play action?
Good coaching can not only mask weakness it can get the other team off balance.
But we all are just going in circles now with all of this.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using CarolinaHuddle mobile app



#23 panther4life

panther4life

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,655
  • Reputation: 1,181
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 06:13 PM

Thanks for this

This is pretty symptomatic of a lack of weapons and/or slow developing routes

I want a talented big physical motherfuger that won't get jammed at the LOS by a defensive back and uses his body to maintain positioning. Anybody like that in this draft?

 

Don't know man I sell cars (reason I had time for this thread today as we were super slow) but it requires working every Saturday so I don't have the luxury of staying up on college ball. I will find someone to latch onto again this year. I recommend using www.draftbreakdown.com to see video cutups (fast forwards to only the snaps of the individual you want to self scout) to select my personal favorites.
 



#24 panther4life

panther4life

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 25-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 4,655
  • Reputation: 1,181
HUDDLER

Posted 15 January 2014 - 06:17 PM

Its a ting and yang here. Cam holds longer than most but in reality why? We all know how slow the wrs are so run a little earlier. Yes here I go again with the bootleg. Now the db's has to cheat in some.
Do we even run pump fakes?
What % of passes are straight drop back vs play action?
Good coaching can not only mask weakness it can get the other team off balance.
But we all are just going in circles now with all of this.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using CarolinaHuddle mobile app

 

Excellent post. None of us have the time even if we had the skill to go back and properly analyze the game tape to find all these answers. Plus we don't dictate what the Gettleman does by our post but its still fun to discuss upcoming possibilities in the draft and do your best to support your stance.