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#25 bigcatdaddy

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 09:46 AM

Hood is not impressive to me at all when I've watched him.  Maybe it's just their system or whatever, but what sold me on PJ was this:

 

 

 

He turned it up when it counted, and maybe it wasn't turning it up, so much as finding his groove and playing with confidence.  I think once he figured it out, he FIGURED IT OUT.  Not saying he is or will be MJ, but MJ wasn't MJ until he hit that shot against Georgetown in the tourney.  To me, that's what PJ did.  He became a killer in the ACC tourney, and then it just took him to another level from there on.  Combine that with Roy saying that in practice PJ was the best perimeter player he had ever seen in his years as a coach...  He's got "it." 

 

I've mentioned before how in all of our drafts, I was generally very accurate in who I thought would and wouldn't be a great player.  PJ is going to be a great player.

Wow so a guy averaging 17ppg that shoots 51% from the floor, 44% from 3, grabs 5 rebounds a game, and 2 assists doesn't impress you?  You must have been extremely disappointed in PJ last year if Rodney's game doesn't impress you.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 09:54 AM

Every guy in the NBADL is playing at the next level (though it's not the next level that most envisioned they'd be in...

 

Over half of the players in the ACC won't even sniff an NBA roster let alone get a chance at being drafted. 

 

Not to mention that Hairston is going against full grown men, not freshmen and sophomores in college.

 

I noticed that you only mentioned Pierre Jackson... but you also failed to mention players like Devin Ebanks, Darius Johnson-Odom, DeAndre Liggins, Hilton Armstrong, Terrence Williams, Shawne Williams, Reggie Williams, Daniel Orton, Seth Curry, Fab Melo, Ike Diogu, Troy Daniels, James Southerland, DeQuan Jones, Dee Bost, Justin Hamilton, Dominic McGuire, Joe Alexander, Willie Reed, Josh Howard, Richard Howell, Rodney Williams, Sherwood Brown, Lorenzo Brown, Justin Brownlee, Isaiah Cannan, Jackie Carmichael, Derrick Caracter, JamesOn Curry, Dewayne Dedmon, Larry Drew, Nando De Colo, Melvin Ely, Mickell Gladness, Abdul Gaddy, Terrel Harris, Dennis Horner, Ron Howard, Scoop Jardine, Kevin Jones, Myck Gabongo, Ryan Kelly, Kenny Kadji, C.J. Leslie, Ricky Ledo, Trey McKinney Jones, Tony Mitchell, Ronald Murray, Hamady Ndiaye, Alex Oriakhi, Dexter Pittman, Kareem Rush, Dexter Strickland, Mustafa Shakur, E.J. Singler, Sean Singletary, Tyshawn Taylor, Adonis Thomas, and Luke Zeller... All guys who were very good college players (even great college players)... I'd rather Hairston get to play against that competition over a lot of the players in the ACC that aren't on Syracuse or Duke.

Are you serious?  I would say at least 70% of those players you mentioned weren't considered "very good" college players.  I watch a lot of college basketball and I can't tell you who a lot of those guys are or who they even played for in college.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 10:56 AM

Wow so a guy averaging 17ppg that shoots 51% from the floor, 44% from 3, grabs 5 rebounds a game, and 2 assists doesn't impress you? You must have been extremely disappointed in PJ last year if Rodney's game doesn't impress you.

Nobody cares about Rodney Hood's inflated stats from playing against scrub teams.

Avg against mid-majors vs top 25:

58% fg (52% 3pt) 20 pt, 6 rb, 2 ast, 1 t/o
46% fg (38% 3pt) 14 pt, 4 rb, 3 ast, 3 t/o


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:11 AM

Hood is a better defender? I know you don't judge defense of stats but Hairston had 6 steals in his first NBADL game...


Imo Hood's length size over most NbA 2's and quick footwork already shows he is and has the potential to be a top defender in the league. Plus you as a Tarheel fan know there were stories Roy had a problem getting PJ to play defense constantly.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:19 AM

Nobody cares about Rodney Hood's inflated stats from playing against scrub teams.

Avg against mid-majors vs top 25:

58% fg (52% 3pt) 20 pt, 6 rb, 2 ast, 1 t/o
46% fg (38% 3pt) 14 pt, 4 rb, 3 ast, 3 t/o


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Now you're being a little basis. Hood is playing in a better ACC then PJ played in. And putting up better numbers.
It's all good being a basis UNC fan but don't look stupid doing it. Give credit where it's due. Hood is a very talented Nba prospect.

Now you're being stupid to down grade what the guy is doing in a better ACC then PJ played in.
You can be a basis UNC fan all you want but don't look stupid doing it. Give credit where it's due. Hood is a really good NbA prospect.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:28 AM

He would've been an All-American at UNC as a sophomore & lotto pick after his 2nd year if he had kept his nose clean.

His off the court immaturity kept him from ever playing a big role at UNC.

Hood transferred from some SEC school where he averaged like 5 points per game. He won't be anything the NBA when he's playing against grown men and doesn't have Jabari to take double teams for him.



Did you actually look up Hood's freshmen year stats before posting this?

He actually avg. 10.4 a game at Miss.ST.

What were PJ freshman numbers? And this time actually take the time and look them up.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:28 AM

Now you're being a little basis. Hood is playing in a better ACC then PJ played in. And putting up better numbers.
It's all good being a basis UNC fan but don't look stupid doing it. Give credit where it's due. Hood is a very talented Nba prospect.

Now you're being stupid to down grade what the guy is doing in a better ACC then PJ played in.
You can be a basis UNC fan all you want but don't look stupid doing it. Give credit where it's due. Hood is a really good NbA prospect.


LOL

I couldn't give two shits about UNC. My parents graduated from Duke and I went to Charlotte University.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:31 AM

LOL

I couldn't give two shits about UNC. My parents graduated from Duke and I went to Charlotte University.


Now answer why you posted false stats for Hood at Miss. St?

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:48 AM

Did you actually look up Hood's freshmen year stats before posting this?

He actually avg. 10.4 a game at Miss.ST.

What were PJ freshman numbers? And this time actually take the time and look them up.


Now answer why you posted false stats for Hood at Miss. St?


Hood played 33 minutes per game as a freshman, Hairston only played 13. Hood played in the shitty SEC, Hairston played in the ACC. This year Hood is playing 33 minutes per game, Hairston only played 23 last season.

PER 40 Freshman Stats:

Rodney Hood: 12.5 pts, 5.8 reb, 2.4 ast
P.J. Hairston: 17.6 pts, 6.7 reb, 2.3 ast

PER 40 Sophomore Stats:

Hood RS: 21.8 pts, 5.7 reb, 2.7 ast
Hairston: 24.6 pts, 7.3 reb, 2.3 ast








I think YOU need to look up stats, bro.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:00 PM

Hood played 33 minutes per game as a freshman, Hairston only played 13. Hood played in the shitty SEC, Hairston played in the ACC. This year Hood is playing 33 minutes per game, Hairston only played 23 last season.

PER 40 Freshman Stats:

Rodney Hood: 12.5 pts, 5.8 reb, 2.4 ast
P.J. Hairston: 17.6 pts, 6.7 reb, 2.3 ast

PER 40 Sophomore Stats:

Hood RS: 21.8 pts, 5.7 reb, 2.7 ast
Hairston: 24.6 pts, 7.3 reb, 2.3 ast








I think YOU need to look up stats, bro.

You said he avg. 5.0 points a game (he avg. 10.40) In a "shitty"' SEC that in reality was better then the ACC that YEAR. UK won the national champion ship that year plus Florida Vanderbilt and Alabama all made the Ncaa tourney and UT should have been in. While the ACC was down that year. You are also using advance stats and posting false actual stats while trying to make a point. 

It's not Hood's fault that PJ didn't play more minutes in a league that was a downgrade to the on Hood played in. You're making excuses for Hood having better actually numbers then PJ in college and losing credibility with every post.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:04 PM

LOL

I couldn't give two shits about UNC. My parents graduated from Duke and I went to Charlotte University.

Where exactly is this?



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:13 PM

Nobody cares about Rodney Hood's inflated stats from playing against scrub teams.

Avg against mid-majors vs top 25:

58% fg (52% 3pt) 20 pt, 6 rb, 2 ast, 1 t/o
46% fg (38% 3pt) 14 pt, 4 rb, 3 ast, 3 t/o


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So you round down instead of up?  I mean 14.8 ppg against top 25, most of us would round that up to 15ppg, same with 4.8 rpg.




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