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#16 PantherPhann89

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:26 PM

I don't understand what we're doing. Why aren't we at least, in negotiations with our free agents, or at a minimum, have touched base with them to let them know our intent. Unless of course, we don't even know yet...



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:33 PM

Still evaluating would be my guess.

 

There's still about three weeks to go, so we're not right up against the deadline.



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:35 PM

With Maclin, you have to account for the fact that he's spent nearly his entire career in a West Coast type system.

 

How well does he do in a Coryell style attack like what we run?

 

A lot of people confuse the two systems because they are quite similar actually, the West Coast offense tends to stretch the field more horizontally though and utilizes a lot more quick short routes and screens. Maclin did play in a spread offense when he was in Missouri though and both the our system and the spread use the receivers more vertically route wise (both go for the home run more often than west coast) so I don't doubt for a second he would have trouble understanding our offense after an offseason/preseason with it.



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:38 PM

A lot of people confuse the two systems because they are quite similar actually, the West Coast offense tends to stretch the field more horizontally though and utilizes a lot more quick short routes and screens. Maclin did play in a spread offense when he was in Missouri though and both the our system and the spread use the receivers more vertically route wise (both go for the home run more often than west coast) so I don't doubt for a second he would have trouble understanding our offense after an offseason/preseason with it.

 

Gotta say I kinda want somebody bigger and more physical.

 

That's not to say Maclin is bad. He just isn't necessarily what I'd like to see.
 



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:48 PM

Eagles beat writer Jimmy Kempski breaks down some of the free agents that the Eagles cod target this offseason and one player could end up making Kelly’s offense even more outstanding — Ted Ginn Jr.

 

 

Beat writer speculating.  Not sure that is anything to worry about.



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 09:17 PM

Still evaluating would be my guess.

There's still about three weeks to go, so we're not right up against the deadline.

we also have the combine to go through. maybe they want to see what's available in the draft before they start doling out money.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 09:19 PM

Beat writer speculating. Not sure that is anything to worry about.

yep.

i could say that the panthers could go after golden tate and have it based on as much as this beat reporter.

that's what they all do at this point. that's all there is for then to do until FA starts.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 09:29 PM

My only knock on Ginn was his alligator arms. He came up short or dropped a few could-be TDs this year but other than that, he was solid.  I'd hate to lose him and his ability to stretch the field/return ability. 



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:28 PM

It'd be a huge plus to bring Ted Ginn back.  He's an explosive return man and he brought a deep and explosive element to the passing game.  If they re-signed Ginn, drafted a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round to develop to eventually replace Smith, we'd be in great shape.  Though I think it's way more likely Ginn walks and they re-sign Hixon for cheap and he just takes Ginn's role at returner and #3 receiver.  



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:34 PM

Do people actually think Ginn is going to get a big contract after less than 600 yards receiving? I hope Ginn comes back, but I don't think a ton of teams will be after him.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:37 PM

I don't understand what we're doing. Why aren't we at least, in negotiations with our free agents, or at a minimum, have touched base with them to let them know our intent. Unless of course, we don't even know yet...

 

Is Captain the only source of that? I would bet that Gettleman has at least been in touch with guys' agents that he really wants to keep (most important ones), and Captain just may not be one of them. Maybe not, but the only source of no contact that I've seen is Captain, and I can't imagine he knows any more than just his situation.



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:56 PM

Maclin is a beast and would instantly be our #1.

Last year would have been his breakout season if not for that terrible practice injury. Signing him would be best cast scenario realm for me.

Really hope we find a way to keep Ginn though. He was a huge part in many a comeback last year.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 11:56 PM

Gettlemen is like a mafia don.  He is going to get rid of guys because it is "good business."  Do not expect emotional attachments to one-year contracts.  They serve a purpose, but they are not part of the core.

 

Ginn is upgradeable. I guarantee that the person who signs him does not get a good deal.  If I were Ginn, I would be looking for the "Set for Life" contract at his age. You do not buy stocks when they are at their highest point, and that is where Ginn is now. I tthink there will be some market for Ginn, and I think he should go after the biggest deal he can get.  He had 600 yards and can return kicks.  He cannot run the entire route tree, so he limits our offense.

 

I think Gettlemen is telling us what he is going to do when he mentioned that McNutt and King need to see the field.  I think he builds from the bottom up for role players.  Ginn had about 600 yards in his best season.   Lafell never did better than that.  We can do better for less money.  Yes, I think we will bring in a stud or two, but I am excted about the WR spot.  McNutt and King will be solid depth, Smitty to the slot, and a veteran and a rookie to round out the deal.

 

we could sign Ginn, but I doubt it. I do not see Lafell coming back. 



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:07 AM

Gettlemen is like a mafia don.  He is going to get rid of guys because it is "good business."  Do not expect emotional attachments to one-year contracts.  They serve a purpose, but they are not part of the core.

 

Ginn is upgradeable. I guarantee that the person who signs him does not get a good deal.  If I were Ginn, I would be looking for the "Set for Life" contract at his age. You do not buy stocks when they are at their highest point, and that is where Ginn is now. I tthink there will be some market for Ginn, and I think he should go after the biggest deal he can get.  He had 600 yards and can return kicks.  He cannot run the entire route tree, so he limits our offense.

 

I think Gettlemen is telling us what he is going to do when he mentioned that McNutt and King need to see the field.  I think he builds from the bottom up for role players.  Ginn had about 600 yards in his best season.   Lafell never did better than that.  We can do better for less money.  Yes, I think we will bring in a stud or two, but I am excted about the WR spot.  McNutt and King will be solid depth, Smitty to the slot, and a veteran and a rookie to round out the deal.

 

we could sign Ginn, but I doubt it. I do not see Lafell coming back. 

I think Ginn should be a top priority. I don't think he will cost that much. Sure he is a mediocre WR. But the skills he does possess are what our offense and really the team needs. He is that occasional blazing fast go deep option. But more importantly Ginn is a great return man. Is that replaceable? Maybe, but at what cost? The Panthers have tried for years to get a decent return man. Now we have a great one. What he brings is field position and the occasional break out play. That can be all the difference between winning and losing.

 

I want us bring Ginn back, let LaFell walk. Draft a WR, then sign one in FA. That should be a good enough core for Cam to work with.



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:28 AM

I am hoping Ginn wants to be here after the success he had with Cam. I mean, he played on two teams prior to the Panthers with little success as a WR. Here, he knows he and Cam have chemistry and will be very much a part of our offense.

 

If Ginn is any type of a football player and not all money.  This should be a huge factor in his decision.  His numbers are only going to improve with each year he is with CAM.   The Eagles passing game is very enticing but hopefully he will want to be apart of the Lombardi Trophy that will soon come our way.




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