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#1 Mr. Scot

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:06 PM

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A WHOLE PIE!

Inspired by a discussion in another thread, here is a list of all the picks that Marty Hurney traded away in his time as GM, what we got back and who other teams used them for...

 

 

2002

 

- 3rd round pick (67) traded to Bengals for 3rd round pick (73) and 5th round pick (145)

 

Panthers Picks: LB Will Witherspoon (73) FB Kyle Johnson (145)

Other Team Picks: TE Matt Schobel (Bengals, 67)

 

 

2003

 

- 2nd round pick (45) traded to Patriots for 2nd round pick (50) and 4th round pick (120)

- 4th round picks (108, 120) and 7th round pick (227) traded to Broncos for 3rd round pick (82)

- 6th round pick (181) traded to Dolphins for 7th round picks (226, 247)

 

Panthers Picks: OL Bruce Nelson (50) CB Ricky Manning Jr (82) WR Walter Young (226) FB Casey Moore (247)

Other Team Picks: WR Bethel Johnson (Patriots, 45) RB Quentin Griffin (Broncos, 108) CB Asante Samuel (Patriots, 120) LB Corey Jenkins (Dolphins, 181) DE Clint Mitchell (Broncos, 227)

 

 

2004

 

- 1st round pick (31) and 4th round pick (127) traded to 49ers for 1st round pick (28)

 

Panthers Picks: CB Chris Gamble

Other Team Picks: WR Rashaun Woods (49ers, 31) LB Richard Seigler (49ers, 127)

 

 

2005

 

- 2nd round pick (45) traded to Seahawks for 2nd round pick (54) and 4th round picks (121, 126)

- 4th round picks (115, 126) traded to Packers for 3rd round pick (89)

- 7th round pick (228) traded to Steelers for OL Todd Fordham

 

Panthers Picks: RB Eric Shelton (54) DT Atiyyah Ellison (89) QB Stefan LeFors (121)

Other Team Picks: MLB Lofa Tatupu (Seahawks, 45) S Marviel Underwood (Packers (115) T Todd Herremans (Eagles, 126) DE Shaun Nua (Steelers, 228)

 

 

2006

 

- 6th round pick (196) traded to Redskins for WR Rod Gardner

 

Panthers Picks: none obtained via trade

Other Team Picks: DT Kedric Golston (Redskins, 196)

 

 

2007

 

- 1st round pick (14) and 6th round pick (191) traded to Jets for 1st round (25) 2nd round (59) and 5th round picks (164)

 

Panthers Picks: LB Jon Beason (25) C Ryan Kalil (59) LB Tim Shaw (164)

Other Team Picks: CB Darrelle Revis (Jets, 14) LB Korey Hall (Jets, 191)

 

 

2008

 

- 2nd round pick (43) 4th round pick (109) and 2009 1st round pick traded to Eagles for 1st round pick (19)

- 5th round pick (142) traded to Bears for S Chris Harris

 

Panthers Picks: T Jeff Otah (19)

Other Team Picks: S Tyrell Johnson (Vikings, 43) G Mike McGlynn (Eagles, 109) CB Zachary Bowman (Bears, 142)

 

 

2009

 

- 1st round pick (28) traded to Eagles for 2008 1st round pick (19)

- 2010 1st round pick traded to 49ers for 2nd round (43) and 4th round pick (111)

- 6th round pick (202) traded to Raiders for 7th round pick (216) and 2010 6th round pick

- 7th round pick (237) traded to Dolphins for QB Josh McCown

 

Panthers Picks: DE Everette Brown (43) RB Mike Goodson (111)

Other Team Picks: C Eric Wood (Bills, 28) TE Brandon Myers (Raiders, 202) TE Jake O'Connell (Chiefs, 237)

 

 

2010

 

- 1st round pick (17) traded to San Francisco for 2009 2nd round pick (43)

- 2011 2nd round pick traded to Patriots for 3rd round pick (89)

- 4th round pick (112) traded to New York Jets for 4th round (124) and 6th round pick (198)

- 5th round pick (144) traded to Chiefs for DT Tank Tyler

- 6th round pick (186) traded to Browns for DT Louis Leonard

 

Panthers Picks: WR Armanti Edwards (89) DE Eric Norwood (124) DE Greg Hardy (175) WR David Gettis (198)

Other Team Picks: G Mike Iupati (49ers, 17)  RB Joe McKnight (Jets, 112) CB Sherrick McManis (Texans, 144) DE Clifton Geathers (Browns, 186)

 

 

2011

 

- 2nd round pick (#33) traded to Patriots for 2010 3rd round pick (89)

- 7th round pick (204) traded to Packers for LS J J Jansen

 

Panthers Picks: none obtained via trade

Other Team Picks: CB Ras-I Dowling (Patriots, 33) TE Virgil Green (Broncos, 204)

 

 

2012

 

- 3rd round pick (73) traded to Bears for TE Greg Olsen

- 6th round pick (180) and 2013 3rd round pick traded to 49ers for 4th round pick (103)

- Undisclosed draft choice traded to 49ers for S Colin Jones*

 

Panthers Picks: DE Frank Alexander (103)

Other Team Picks: S Brandon Taylor (Chargers, 73) S Trenton Robinson (49ers, 180)

 

* To date, there is no record of a pick changing hands in this transaction.  It could be a future pick, but it's more likely the pick may was conditional and conditions were not met.

 

 

2013

 

- 3rd round pick (74) traded to 49ers for 2012 4th round pick (103)

- 7th round pick (219) traded to Raiders for WR Louis Murphy

 

Panthers Picks: no picks obtained via trade

Other Team Picks: WR Terrence Williams (Cowboys, 74) TE D C Jefferson (Cardinals, 219)



#2 El Chingon

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:06 PM

wow. Impressive research.



#3 Mr. Scot

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:10 PM

The question was when we last kept all our picks.

 

Based on what I found, under Marty Hurney, we never stood pat, though technically the 2002, 2004 and 2007 trades were all 'trade downs' that netted extra picks.  Closest we came to just picking our slate was 2006 when only one pick was traded away.  The 2008 draft was the one where Hurney really started getting on the wrong side of his transactions.

 

In the 2001 draft, the last before Hurney became GM, we kept all our picks and got an extra 7th rounder from the Eagles in exchange for TE Luther Broughton.

 

Of course, Hurney wasn't the only one to trade away picks.  Dom Capers infamously traded our 1st rounders from 1999 and 2000 for DT Sean Gilbert. And while Gilbert wasn't awful, he certainly wasn't worth two 1st rounders.

 

 



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:13 PM

yeah good stuff, a lot of those trades look like a push (equally bad for everyone).

 

That Armanti trade surely is at the top of the list of ones we'd like to have back, but the Pats even wasted the pick. I think that Ras-I dude is out of the NFL altogether. 



#5 Ken

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:14 PM

Pie for the effort. Good job. Probably took you awhile.

 



#6 thomas96

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:31 PM

Doesn't look too bad from that research...



#7 Mr. Scot

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:31 PM

Pie for the effort. Good job. Probably took you awhile.

 

Didn't take as long as you might think.

 

Perused the draft and trade history pages on Panthers.com and looked up the draft records for the traded picks.

 

 

Doesn't look too bad from that research...

 

Pre-2008, you could argue we were breaking even.

 

From 2008 forward though... :(
 



#8 Kevin Greene

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:32 PM

Profootballreference is also the bomb.

 

http://www.pro-footb...ce=any&show=all



#9 TANTRIC-NINJA

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:33 PM

We stand pat last season minus a third and Playoffs...

Hurney tried to outsmart the room each year and only made himself look foolish with all this dealing.. He clearly has a gambling problem.

No matter the distance from the draft...that Armanti Edwards trade is beyond awful..

At least Otah, Everette Brown, had some value pre draft...Armanti was just going to be a project to get him to AT BEST..an avg WR.

After Armanti's combine it was clear he was an outstanding athlete..at QB. Ifhe ran a 4.2 id understand it but when the move happened I thought we were getting a great player..But it was Aramanti..I facepalmed.

Although not a trade I think division 3 talent Amini over all SEC LT Cordy Glenn will haunt us if Gross retires and we do no get a LT in this draft.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:35 PM

We stand pat last season minus a third and Playoffs...

Hurney tried to outsmart the room each year and only made himself look foolish with all this dealing.. He clearly has a gambling problem.

 

Last season was Gettleman, but the picks we didn't have were traded by Hurney.

 

Hurney absolutely loved to trade.  Gettleman?  Not so much.
 



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:36 PM

Not sure what happened to put all the slashes in the thread title.  Don't think I did that :unsure:

 

Edit: Fixed.



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:40 PM

Gettleman traded Beason for a pick, does anyone know what round that ended up being?



#13 ladypanther

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:40 PM

Not going to read anything here.  Do not want to know/revisit that.  A bit painful.  I am moving forward.  Believe in the Boston Boss.



#14 Gucci Mane

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:40 PM

all anyone needs to gather from this is that Hurney traded UP to get not only ArFarty Edwards, he also traded up to get Eric fugging Norwood out of the slappy ass program that is USC... fuggin overrated ass program.



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:44 PM

His parting gifts were Cam and Luke though so it was all worth it since these actions will bring multiple rings to CLT. Just like Jake beat us with the Browns with John missing the FG in that seemingly meaningless 2010 game allowing us to stay #1 to pick Cam. All part of a greater plan. Thanks guys.


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