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#31 panthers55

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 09:51 AM

FROM 07-09 Randy Moss had 3765 yards and 47 TD catches.....so what is your definition of elite?

And how did he do the 2 years before that or after.  If a quarterback resurrects a player's career and he has a couple great years mixed between not much else, does that make the quarterback elite or the receiver elite?



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 09:51 AM

Cam has a defense that NE has never had. Not only did Brady have to score lots of points with nobodies but he had to outscore the other team to win. With Cam we need a guy who can make plays when we need him to but doesn't have to score 30 a game to win week in and out.


Not true. New England had great defenses for all of their Super Bowl titles.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 09:52 AM

I'm sure the story isn't that along


a bunch of mediocre players who are getting over paid.

you're right, that wasn't very long at all!

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 09:53 AM

I don't feel like digging into his history, but most recently, Randy Moss, Gronk, Hernandez, Welker, please...

Hernandez played, what, two seasons? He is also a TE, not a WR. Cam has a great TE. His first year he had two.

Gronkowski is about as useful to Brady as a broom. He is made of glass and always injured. He is a not a WR anyway.

Wes Welker is a tiny slot receiver. He is not elite nor is he a WR1/WR2.

Randy Moss as a Patriot was only elite in name recognition. Brady made him. What did Moss do the year before and after New England? He sucked ass and bounced from team to team.


All that aside, Brady won 3 Super Bowls with none of those guys. His best WR during his championships was Deion freaking Branch. Yes, THE Deion Branch.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 09:56 AM

'Brady has never had great receivers'

'oh yeah! here's one guy!'

that's it? 1 receiver for 2 years of his career. I think you've helped prove the point that he has made his players great, rather than the other way around. how did welker do last year?

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 09:59 AM

Cam has a defense that NE has never had. Not only did Brady have to score lots of points with nobodies but he had to outscore the other team to win. With Cam we need a guy who can make plays when we need him to but doesn't have to score 30 a game to win week in and out.


So you need Trent Dilfer?

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:00 AM

'Brady has never had great receivers'

'oh yeah! here's one guy!'

that's it? 1 receiver for 2 years of his career. I think you've helped prove the point that he has made his players great, rather than the other way around. how did welker do last year?


Welker? He only had 800 yards and 10tds, your right he's nothing without the great Tom Brady

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:00 AM

Cam has a defense that NE has never had.  Not only did Brady have to score lots of points with nobodies but he had to outscore the other team to win.  With Cam we need a guy who can make plays when we need him to but doesn't have to score 30 a game to win week in and out.

 

Those early 2000s NE defenses were elite, potential GOAT defenses actually



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:01 AM

And how did he do the 2 years before that or after. If a quarterback resurrects a player's career and he has a couple great years mixed between not much else, does that make the quarterback elite or the receiver elite?


Randy moss washed out after his NE Days due to age and care level. Prior to that he was always a beast and had 1 bad year in 06 when Andrew Walter was his QB....and even in that bad year he still had as many receiving yards per game as any panther receiver had last year so try again....actually don't your just bored as fug and want to argue....can't believe you're trying to tell me Randy Moss wasn't elite

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:01 AM

Randy Moss.

  

FROM 07-09 Randy Moss had 3765 yards and 47 TD catches.....so what is your definition of elite?


3 years b4 Brady: 2323 Yd 24 TD

3 years w/ Brady: 3765 Yd 47 TD



Moss was no longer an elite WR when he went to New England. Brady & the system made him. Just like Welker. After they got rid of Moss he was completely useless.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:01 AM

So all we need is for 4th year Cam Newton to be as good as the GOAT and we've got this.



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:03 AM




3 years b4 Brady: 2323 Yd 24 TD

3 years w/ Brady: 3765 Yd 47 TD



Moss was no longer an elite WR when he went to New England. Brady & the system made him. Just like Welker. After they got rid of Moss he was completely useless.


Yea because Welker has been ass in Denver, smh. Do you guys watch other teams?

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:07 AM

So all we need is for 4th year Cam Newton to be as good as the GOAT and we've got this.


Yep.

And McSuck, King and Pilares are apparently just as good as guys like Moss, Welker and Gronk.

Amazing what you can learn from this place hey?

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:07 AM

Welker? He only had 800 yards and 10tds, your right he's nothing without the great Tom Brady


three of the four years before that, he had twice as many...he disappeared last year,

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:08 AM

Randy moss washed out after his NE Days due to age and care level. Prior to that he was always a beast and had 1 bad year in 06 when Andrew Walter was his QB....and even in that bad year he still had as many receiving yards per game as any panther receiver had last year so try again....actually don't your just bored as fug and want to argue....can't believe you're trying to tell me Randy Moss wasn't elite


5 seasons, age 25-29, 48 TDs

3 seasons, age 30-32, 47 TDs


Moss had 8 TD '05 & 3 TD in '06. He was no where near elite when he went to NE. His QB is a lame ass excuse. It didn't stop him from being a monster early in his career. He sucked when he arrived in NE. He sucked again after he left.

Tom Brady & Belichick made Moss those 3 years.


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