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Let's suppose for a moment that the front office actually didn't believe in Bell.

What would people expect them to say publicly?

"We have confidence in him" or "OMG WE'RE SCREWED WE'RE GONNA GET KILLED THIS YEAR CAM WILL NEVER SURVIVE!!!" :blink:

Does the team leadership really believe in him like they say they do? No idea.

But the one thing I do know is that if they didn't, you sure as heck wouldn't hear about it.

Very true, however, from what I've seen there has been 0 attempts to replace Gross. If they didn't believe in Bell as at least serviceable, they would have tried.

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Very true, however, from what I've seen there has been 0 attempts to replace Gross. If they didn't believe in Bell as at least serviceable, they would have tried.

I'm not confident that we'd know if they had.

Sad to say our beat writers miss things occasionally :unsure:

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Because we have no one else, so they needed to make sure they had an experienced body there.  If they give him a long-term deal at that salary, then I might think differently, but I see this as a Band-Aid move for this year alone.

The moving of Bell over to the left serves two purposes. One, it gets Chandler on the field. He is our most athletic Tackle prospect. But RT is the only position he can really excel. I like more size at LT, and Chandler is a tad smaller than I would prefer. At RT, he can use his quickness, and athleticism to his advantage. Worst case. He is still going to be better than Bell was last year.

Moving Bell over to LT, supposedly, and a 2nd round tender as well, could be a last ditch effort to get something out of him. Give him a good ol' shot of, we believe in you kid. Boost that confidence level, maybe the play will follow? If he can succeed, yea. If he fails, he is depthish.

Bell-340, Amini-320, Kalil-309, KugZilla-330, Chandler-310. There is some size in there. And with what happened against SF still fresh in our minds. We are going to get bigger, when, and where, possible.

If I said Rookie LT, Amini, Kalil, KugZilla, Chandler. Would that seem better? Not a bad starter kit.

Ah hellz, I can't lie anymore. This unit concerns me more than I would like.

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I give Bell the benefit of doubt.   If you have ever tired to do something with the opposite hand you know that, though you might get good at it, it never quite feels the same as it does on your natural side.

 

Getting my certifications (many MANY years ago) to be a certified bowling instructor one of the practical test we had to do was to bowl with our opposite hand.  To get the feel of what it is like to your student.   Though I could do it I still had to process the steps in my mind before I performed.   While comparing bowling to play LT in the NFL is a stretch the mental process could be similar. 

 

I think once Bell moves to the Left side he won't be thinking as much and just performing.   That is why I think he might be a better LT than a right.

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So here's kind of a crazy question, what if Bell slims down?  He was in the 340 range last year, which is a whole lotta man!  What if he drops 20 pounds?  Will he have enough agility with the power to be at least an average starting LT?  That is the biggest question regarding this transition.  The staff believes he has the skills to do it, which is something we just have to accept.

 

In the draft, if we can get a good value pick on a guy who can play LT, then I think it's kind of a no brainer.  As much as we moan and groan about no one to catch passes, we made a lot of our games based on the 3rd/4th and 1 plays.  I think that's going to happen again.  We need that push to get us that 1 yard TD.  We'd all be singing a different tune if we'd have made those plays against SF in the playoffs.

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The plan is starting to reveal itself to a degree! One of two things:

1)RR has always known Bell would be a bad ass LT and has forced him to play RT for field time against NFL competition, despite the set backs, in preparation for the day Gross retires. Would be interesting to know of a study showing Southpaw Tackles having above avg success at LT than a right-handed LT.

2)Chandler is the real deal! Looking at it, I think this is less likely scenario or they would have pressed more playing time on him for experience and line continuity.

Gross says he left the Panthers in very capable hands. I think that was a reflection more of his position over the organization! One thing for sure, looking at FA's brought in and private visits among draft prospects, DG is way more concerned with upgrading the WR position than OT position. And that is coming from a guy that builds from the line out. Something tells me that the staff "knows" Bell is the answer at LT

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As for Bell, he's always been a left tackle, but when he came here, he was asked to switch sides. And while that may not seem like a big deal to some, for him it might have been. All of his muscle memory has been focused on going left, and mentally, he's always seen the field from one angle, and was suddenly asked to change his perspective. That's a recipe for thinking too much and overcompensating. So I can see moving back as being more comfortable for him.

Does that mean I think he is the future at LT? No, I actually think at his core, he is a backup.

Bell played OG in high school. He was 2nd Team Texas 4A All-State at guard as a senior:

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/020207/hig_020207044.shtml

Then, after spending his true freshman season injured, Bell trained as the starting RT for 4 of the next 6 years until now. His bio shows that he only allowed 3 sacks as a soph right tackle at NM, but doesn't say how many he allowed during his next two years at LT (because it wasn't good enough to brag about?)

2006 - OG (high school senior)

2007 - missed most of season with foot injury

2008 - RT - started all 12 games, allowed only 3 sacks and named an honorable mention CollegeFootballNews.com Freshman All-American.

2009 - LT

2010 - LT (not drafted)

2011 - RT (first year in NFL)

2012 - RT

2013 - RT

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Bell played OG in high school. He was 2nd Team Texas 4A All-State at guard as a senior:

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/020207/hig_020207044.shtml

Then, after spending his true freshman season injured, Bell trained as the starting RT for 4 of the next 6 years until now. His bio shows that he only allowed 3 sacks as a soph right tackle at NM, but doesn't say how many he allowed during his next two years at LT (because it wasn't good enough to brag about?)

2006 - OG (high school senior)

2007 - missed most of season with foot injury

2008 - RT - started all 12 games, allowed only 3 sacks and named an honorable mention CollegeFootballNews.com Freshman All-American.

2009 - LT

2010 - LT (not drafted)

2011 - RT (first year in NFL)

2012 - RT

2013 - RT

 

Wow, that's some solid background work.  It was my understanding that he was a LT only at NM, glad you cleared that up (and I didn't know anything about G in HS).  That changes my perspective quite a bit.  Assuming he had always been a LT, I understood why he might have had some struggles adjusting to RT.  But since LT hadn't been ingrained in him like I thought, I'm more concerned that the left handed argument truly is a creation for spin and misdirection rather than a legitimate point. 

 

But that also tells me that the team is probably more focused on OT, particularly LT, than they are letting on.  After all, I can't see Rivera nor Gettleman being the type to believe in the plug and hope philosophy.  Bell has been inconsistent at RT, and there is no way that two successful football minds like them wouldn't realize that changing sides probably isn't going to change that much. 

 

So now I'm even more of a mind that we will go OT in the 1st.  If I had to guess, I think we will prefer, in order, Martin, Kouandjio, then Moses at 28 (and I feel comfortable that one of them will be there).  Of course Kouandjio depends on the medical, but I am now believing that will not be an issue. 

 

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I'am not a huge Bell fan, in fact I am rather indifferent to the guy. My favorite player on the O line was Gross, but now I'd say it's Kalil. I got faith he can turn it around this season, but if he don't get it done this year it might be time to move him to Guard. Maybe try Chandler at Tackle, I liked how Nate Chandler just slides right into the O line and does a heckuva job,

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I have said this a few times.   Gettleman is creating some great competition at the WR and OT position.   The players we have added to the practice squad last year and the others already on the roster are going to battle it out.  Someone has to sit in the LT spot to begin with.  Bell is it, whether he stays there will be whether he can fight off the talent behind him.

 

This preseason will be a great year for watching battles in preseason.

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I have said this a few times.   Gettleman is creating some great competition at the WR and OT position.   The players we have added to the practice squad last year and the others already on the roster are going to battle it out.  Someone has to sit in the LT spot to begin with.  Bell is it, whether he stays there will be whether he can fight off the talent behind him.

 

This preseason will be a great year for watching battles in preseason.

 

I would throw G in that statement and feel comfortable that I have done the right thing. 

 

Who is our RG now?  At least we know Bell is King of the LT hill in April, but RG?  Scott?  Williams?  Bond?  Kugbila?  Chandler?

 

Matsko has his work cut out for him. 

 

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I would throw G in that statement and feel comfortable that I have done the right thing. 

 

Who is our RG now?  At least we know Bell is King of the LT hill in April, but RG?  Scott?  Williams?  Bond?  Kugbila?  Chandler?

 

Matsko has his work cut out for him. 

 

 

Let the battle begin.   What I find interesting is these guys know this.  Hopefully they are working on being the best and come into camp ready and fit to take is spot.

 

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