Richardson and Hurst weren't even drafted. Turner was a 3rd round talent that went before our pick in the third round. Same with Moses. Like many, I was hoping a left tackle would fall to us but it just didn't happen. No one we drafted was going to start over Bell or Chandler at LT and most of those guys would have made bad RTs.
The pick I disagreed with was not drafting Fleming in the fourth. We need a RT and he seemed to fit the bill. But we worked him out so it's not like we didn't know about him. Our staff must have felt he wasn't a very good prospect - most Stanford OTs haven't lived up to their billing in recent years so who knows.
And I'm not sure why everyone is ignoring Tavares king. He was a fifth round pick we stole from the Broncos and might as well be viewed as being part of this draft class. Maybe Gettleman didn't feel some of those late round receivers were more deserving of a spot on our roster than King. After all, they've worked with him (and McNutt) and have seen them in practice - I take the front office not drafting a second receiver as a sign of confidence in those guys.
Lastly, drafting Ealy in the second a year ahead of when he will start (after CJ or Kraken are cut) will allow us to use that 2015 first rounder on another elite WR or LT for Cam.
Ebron at 28 is a dream scenario. He's a pass catcher and that's what we need. Split him out wide if you have to, he and Olsen can play together. And he's certainly going to be a better blocker than Cooks/OBJ/Lee. Grab a WR in the 2nd round and Hurst in the 3rd. I don't even like UNC but that would be a killer draft.
Okay, if the fuger (Lee) sucks and we take him what will you say then? That's my point, there is a higher probability of him sucking then working out. If hes good, that's fine. I'll admit I'm wrong and eat my crow. I have zero problems admitting I'm wrong, unlike a lot of people on here. But there are better receivers that will be on the board at pick 28, and lets be honest, Lee could fall to the 2nd round in my opinion. We have a huge need on the OL to address too.
I think Lee has the same probability of busting as any other prospect. Frankly, any talented WR we draft early is walking into a great situation and should be successful to some degree. Cam as a QB, plenty of opportunity, and DG will absolutely make the OL a strength over the next one to two years. It's in his DNA.
We clearly have different rankings on WR prospects which is to be expected. Personally, I rank them as follows: Watkins, Evans, OBJ and Lee (tied), Cooks and Matthews (tied). Those are the only guys I would draft in the first round. But it's all subjective and I'm certainly no scout or NFL coach. Just a guy with an opinion.
And I'm with you on needing O line help. I think OT is our most likely pick in the first. I worry that we won't get a potential #1 receiver at pick 60 but the same can be said for tackle. I'm hoping we can somehow get two picks in the top 45 and address LT and WR. Maybe Moses and Matthews - that would be ideal.
The idea that being a SoCal receiver is a reason not to draft Lee just strikes me as lazy analysis. There are holes to poke in Lee's game for sure but the colors he wore should be irrelevant at this point.
The Trojan WRs that busted in the NFL all came from Pete Carroll's teams. Those teams were stacked with 5* recruits at every position and cake walked through college football for a decade. Then the playing field was leveled - after Carroll left, the sanctions, etc. The PAC caught up to the Trojans under Kiffin and no longer do their players enjoy an immense talent advantage at nearly every position. Those Trojan offensive lines made their QBs and WRs look much better than they were.
Lee made his name under a different coach and staff and should be evaluated in that context. Mike Williams has literally nothing to do with Lee. Robert Woods is a much more valid precedent and he did pretty well in his rookie season.
Another example, in my opinion, is the Alabama RB position. Alabama teams have enjoyed a significant advantage on the O-Line for the past five years in nearly every game they have played. As such, their RBs regularly get 3-5 yards downfield before having to think about a defensive player. Those RBs have underperformed in the NFL where the playing field is more level, the holes are smaller, and the linebackers are bigger and faster. For that reason I would be wary of drafting a Bama RB - though Lacy did look pretty good last year. But I don't think that should be held against a Bama RB ten years from now - after Saban has moved on and Bama's recruiting has fallen off.
Yes it's 2013 only. If we only looked at 2012 some of you idiots would be calling Watkins a bust....
And if you only looked at Sammy's stats vs. South Carolina he'd be a third day prospect. But sample size and context matter, so Sammy is deservedly a top 5 pick. I hope other NFL teams overlook Lee in the draft so that we can grab him at 28.
I used fan speak and on mine Marquise Lee stayed on the board until 58...
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Ha - well clearly the simulator and I have different opinions on Lee.
Safe to say I'd be ecstatic with Lee in the second. I think he played injured last year and still put up very good numbers. Reminds me of Keenan Allen in that regard. I'd take him all day at the end of the first round.
OT ZACK MARTIN
TE AUSTIN SEFERIAN-JENKINS
WR DONTE MONCRIEF
WR BRANDON COLEMAN
S JONATHAN DOWLING
CB AARON COLVIN
DE AARON LYNCH
Drafted using walter big board. The more I look at it the more I think we end up waiting on a WR and going OL in the first. This WR class is ridiculously deep.