Have you ever that saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks, well Martin and Oher are those old dogs.
I've seen Martin since his Miami days, the oline got better the minute he left. Then he goes to SF with his former coach and still is complete garbage not even the gullible niners fans like him, they have a thread dedicated to him and its endless pages of bashing.
Oher has been trash for 3 straight season sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade. Tennessee line was garbage and he was there worst starter.
Last season towards the end of the season our line did improve but it was marginal at best, what really happened was that the running game got going and we went no huddle.
John Lynch (I believe)said it best when are line was forced into passing situations they folded like a cheap lawn chair, this line we have now isn't meant for comebacks or shootouts of any kind.
And again, instead of laying out a plan, and explaining it in full detail, you just bitch.
It would be a surprise to me, because I don't think they wanted to get rid of both. Grubbs wasn't open to a pay cut, so he's the one that left. By all accounts, Jahri is open to doing something with his contract.
The Saints aren't making moves just to make moves. They HAD a plan. I don't think that plan involves going into next year with an entirely new interior line, but I could be wrong. If they can't work out the numbers on the contract, I guess it could happen.
Fixed it for you.
They had a plan, it didn't work, now they have to start new.
I went back and looked at the two teams that the Panthers have stated time and again that they want to try to copy. Then looked at their QB's, who IMO are very similar to Cam Newton as far as ability to play the game, and overall QB rankings.
The Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger, and the Giants and Eli Manning. Both are fantastic teams, and both QB's were high draft picks that are similar to Cam Newton if not worse when they came into the league.
I then looked at their most recent Super Bowls, the rosters and how they acquired those rosters. I'm working on the offensive side of the ball, since that is what I hear everyone screaming about. I didn't have time to completely run through every player, but looked at the names that I remember being big time players for them.
The 2005/06 Steelers:
RB: Bettis and Parker, both drafted, home grown talents.
WR: Ward, drafted by the Steelers, and Randel El, drafted by the Steelers, then allowed to walk and sign a huge deal elsewhere, only to come back, sign cheap and win a ring. (sound kinda familiar?)
TE: Miller, home grown.
OL: Faneca, Kemo, Starks....all homegrown.
The 2008/2009 Steelers;
Homes: Homegrown/drafted high, but not as good as KB
RB's: Nothing to write home about other than Parker....
Colon and Hartwig, Homegrown, and cheap vet.
The 2007/2008 Giants:
Jacobs: Drafted 4th round, homegrown.
Burress: FA in 2005 6 years 25 million.
Shockey: Drafted in 2002, long before Eli got there.
The 2011/2012 Giants:
Barden: 3rd round draft pick/homegrown
Manningham: 3rd rounder/homegrown
Nicks: 1st rounder/homegrown
I will go ahead and admit that I'm sure I missed a couple guys in there, but that's the direction I see this franchise going. The only big name FA for those 4 Super Bowls was Burress, and we all know how that turned out, even though they did get over the hump with him.
Calm down, Cam hasn't signed an extension yet because both he, and DG know it's not the best time to do so. We still aren't in great cap shape, however, we will be next offseason. Cam has very little leverage in this situation, and he and his agent know this. Cam is under contract this season, and we can use the tag for the next two on him. That would put Cam in his 8th season becoming a FA, and if you can't see that this team is headed in a better direction by then, I don't know what to tell you.
Next year expect to see Cam signed long term, along with Luke, and probably an extension for KK or Star, depending on performance this year.
This team's future looks bright from where I'm sitting.