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#2987972 Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

Posted by Navy_football on 29 September 2014 - 11:35 AM

WTF are you going on about stats?  You are the only one bringing up stats that we all know about from previous years.  I am discussing Cam's sustainability behind this current oline, in his current health, with this current stable of backs.  Whenever you want to discuss that, then we can have a conversation.  Until then be my guest to discuss Cam's rookie season stats and his ability as a pocket passer with whoever else it is you feel in your mind is shitting on Cam. 

 

This is what I don't understand...

 

How could anyone take anything we're saying as "crapping" on Cam? If anything, I've read alot of posters so afraid by the RBs and OL ineptitude that they really fear we could lose the future of the franchise, especially since he's not as mobile as usual because of injuries. 

 

I haven't read one comment that said DA is better than Cam and should start ahead of him. 

 

Let's say Cam sits for 2 weeks and comes back to a 2-4 team (worse case scenario) fully healthy. Able to extend plays and drives with his legs, as well as carving defenses apart with his arm. I'd take that scenario instead of a noticeably slower Cam taking a beating every week because he can't escape pressure and still at 2-4; never able to get healthy because of the beating he takes every single game.  




#2985539 Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

Posted by Navy_football on 28 September 2014 - 05:22 PM

I wish I could give this post multiple pie.

 

This is, by far, the best I have ever seen Cam Newton as a passer.  Shame it comes in a season where our offensive line is worse than ever and he is banged up.  Newton has done all he can possibly do given the circumstances.  We are fielding the worst OL in the NFL and arguably the worst running game in the NFL alongside the Jacksonville Jaguars.

 

I completely agree that Cam is looking fantastic back there. He has improved every season, and I think he'll continue to improve. 

 

But, he's hurt and not able to protect himself right now. With that worst oline in the NFL and arguably worst running game. Truth be told, Cam has been the Panthers running game for at least the past 2 seasons. 




#2985485 Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

Posted by Navy_football on 28 September 2014 - 05:16 PM

It has gotten to the point where it really is a waste of time to try and explain things to folks anymore. They have these goofy thoughts, like sitting Cam, and you cannot sway them.

It is the same after every loss. Emotional over-reactions lead to goofy azz comments. No one has any patience anymore. They deserve it now, and by God you had better give it to them.

You can't blame everything on Madden. Some blame has to go to just not caring enough to learn the game. Have interwebz, and there is no need for knowledge.

 

No, I disagree. I have played this game at a very high level and I understand the implications of sitting your starting QB. 

 

I don't know what the right move might be, but it's hard watching that young man back there, obviously hurt - maybe even a little injured, not able to protect himself while this oline allows 3 of 4 pass rushers into the backfield in less than 2 seconds. 

 

If Cam was healthy - no brainer. He has to play with the cards DG dealt him. But, Cam is trying to extend plays in ways he just can't right now. And if anyone that has watched the past 3 games, can not see Cam is not himself, then you haven't been watching the past 3 years. He is a dynamic runner and one of the most elusive players in the league when healthy. Right now, DA looks just as elusive as Cam. And that can get this kid hurt. 




#2985406 Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

Posted by Navy_football on 28 September 2014 - 05:03 PM

I get what you mean, but that decision likely costs you - at the least - a couple of games. It could conceivably be seen as an acknowledgement that this year is a wash.

Are we far enough along in this season that you're comfortable with that?

 

I would hate to have to make that decision. I don't think the season is lost yet, it's way too early. But, I would hate for Cam to have a season like RG3 did last year because he couldn't protect himself. 




#2985379 Our offensive line, to paraphrase Randy Moss, is...

Posted by Navy_football on 28 September 2014 - 05:00 PM

Cam has been masking the oline's deficiencies for years now. Now that he can't run around back there, the truth can't be ignored. This group is really really bad. 




#2985359 Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

Posted by Navy_football on 28 September 2014 - 04:58 PM

And just to clarify - I don't think DA gives the Panthers a better chance to win, I think Cam is going to get killed hobbling around back there with this oline. 




#2985348 Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

Posted by Navy_football on 28 September 2014 - 04:55 PM

To be honest, Cam does actually look very slow. DA looks more elusive in the pocket than Cam right now, and that's scary. 

 

Bottom line... if Cam can't protect himself, with this horribly offensive offensive line, then maybe DA really is the better option right now. Until Cam is healthy enough to run away from d linemen. 




#2973191 Kelvin Benjamin: Panthers Playmaker

Posted by Navy_football on 22 September 2014 - 01:39 PM

Cam is completing nearly 70% of his passes while playing with broken ribs behind the worst OL in the league.

Cam haters need to go shoot themselves.

 

lindseyj, I am in no way a Cam hater. I'm one of his biggest proponents and always have been - at least after the Panthers drafted him. I think he's in extraordinary talent that I've really never seen before. 

 

Injuries, OL play and lack of running game aside, I thought Cam could have taken more shots to KB when the Steelers were in man-to-man coverage. KB's a mismatch on any one DB. Exploit the mismatch until they adjust. Make them adjust and then find the weakness created by that adjustment. 




#2972661 Kelvin Benjamin: Panthers Playmaker

Posted by Navy_football on 22 September 2014 - 10:34 AM

I think Cam missing out on preseason and training camp is starting to show.

 

DA has already figured out that one-on-one with KB means throw a soft pitch in the air for him to go get. It really ain't that hard. 




#2959651 The Greg Hardy thread....for everything Hardy related

Posted by Navy_football on 17 September 2014 - 09:00 AM

This is gonna expose Hardy as a player. He's seriously not that great. Charles Johnson is so much better it isn't even funny. He's the one that gets double teams, then once Lotulelei and Short were drafted it took even more pressure off. Hardy benefited greatly from the players around him. Not to mention, literally half of his production came in 2-3 games against the worst tackles in the league. Addison having 2.5 sacks last week was just a small sign of that. Whoever they throw out there is gonna succeed.

 

i don't agree. Hardy gets a ton of pressure even when he doesn't get sacks. It's just that when he can beat a player, he absolutely dominates them on every play. He makes the offense adjust for him in those scenarios or he'll get a sack/tackle in the backfield on every play. Plus he's a very good pass rushing DT. 




#2951268 Official Panthers - Lions Gameday Thread

Posted by Navy_football on 14 September 2014 - 02:40 PM

Greg sold that one yall




#2950391 Official Panthers - Lions Gameday Thread

Posted by Navy_football on 14 September 2014 - 01:53 PM

Can't believe we let a blonde-mulleted white dude catch a TD pass. :(

 

Maybe we need to respond with our own - Bersin




#2950372 Official Panthers - Lions Gameday Thread

Posted by Navy_football on 14 September 2014 - 01:51 PM

Lions are holding like crazy

 

I mean it's beyond ridiculous at this point. Did you see Tate take out the defender on that pass to Ross? Straight up tackled him to clear the passing lane. 




#2949544 Official Panthers - Lions Gameday Thread

Posted by Navy_football on 14 September 2014 - 12:45 PM

Was carted off on a stretcher wiping away tears.

 

Not sure what the injury is.

 

DeShawn Jackson was hurt as well. Not sure if he's out though.
 

 

Looked to me like he may have really hurt his ankle. Like maybe broken - hard inside roll not the usual outside ankle roll. 




#2946991 The Face of the Panthers Franchise

Posted by Navy_football on 13 September 2014 - 08:01 AM

QBs are the face of a franchise unless you have a carousel or ineptitude at the position. So by default it's Cam. However, Luke is a fantastic player and a game changer at the MLB position. 

 

And to those saying we couldn't win without Luke, but we could without Cam, that's ridiculous. The defense has twice as many Stars (pun intended) as the offense. The entire defensive line is made up of potential pro bowlers. TD may actually be the most complete LB on the team. How many games did we lose in 2012 because of defense? The defense became great when Fua, McLain and a host of other currently-out-of-the-leaguers were replaced. Luke needed help, just like Cam. Hopefully, we have a decent oline now and a couple of go-to WRs to help the offense along. Cam makes the offense better, with the potential to be elite. Luke makes the defense better, and with the parts already in place, they are elite. 






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