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#3141880 If Atlanta AND Cleveland win this weekend....

Posted by Navy_football on 18 December 2014 - 01:36 PM

If we lose and ATL wins, doesn't that put us in pretty good position to draft Amari Cooper? Just saying... would be a pretty good consolation prize.

#3121923 Official Panthers - Saints Gameday Thread - Please don't run up the score...

Posted by Navy_football on 07 December 2014 - 02:25 PM

Maybe it WAS the oline the whole time.

#3120850 "[Cam] might be two years away from being finished."

Posted by Navy_football on 07 December 2014 - 09:00 AM

Agree with a few of the points, but in general it's a misinformed and short-sighted argument.


Cam does need to continue to learn touch. No question there. Not saying that every one of his passes are bullets, but he needs to learn when he can and should take a little off.


Cam's accuracy is not really the problem. I've seen him place the ball in some really tight windows. As a matter of fact he does it at least once every game, when you get the wow throw that you know only a few QBs could make. His problem is consistency and anticipating routes.


Cam is not a running QB. He is a passing QB that can run. Every since day one, he forced himself to stay in the pocket and deliver the ball even if the run was there. I mean he did PASS for over 400 yards that game! And another 400+ his second game. The only QB in the history of the NFL with similar passing numbers through their first 3 years is Andrew Luck. Period. Yet Cam is a running QB? I'm confused.


Cam was raw when he came into the league. Every one knew that. But he has progressed every season since entering the NFL. This season is more an indictment on his oline play. Not Cam Newton's regression. Because it has to be a regression, right? How could he have had the most passing yards by a QB in their first three seasons - in history, but not be a competent passer? That statement is full of contradictions. So, it can't be that he was a bad passer, but he's lost some of his effectiveness. Maybe can attribute that to a completely new receiving corp. missing OTAs - so didn't have a chance to develop chemistry, ankle surgery, and the loss of his franchise LT.

#3118520 Things you see in this video....

Posted by Navy_football on 04 December 2014 - 03:03 PM

Would like to see a bigger sample size. One play doesn't really say all that much.


How about your gif? Is there any other QB in the league that could make that play? Seriously?

#3118463 Things you see in this video....

Posted by Navy_football on 04 December 2014 - 02:30 PM

Neither checkdown was really open except for Olsen. If he throws to Cotchery he's going to get blasted or it's in an INT.


Same with KB and Olsen early. He has to wait until KBs route influences the LB before going to Olsen.


In this video, KB is never open. His job is to influence, which he does half heartedly - probably could have been more of a rub on the LB. By the time the LB takes a step towards KBs route, the nickel/OLB is closing in on Olsen. So Cam had to throw the ball inside or he would have led Olsen into the defender - separation with dropped pass or ball in the air. Or he could have gotten away with putting it right in Olsen's chest - though difficult while target is stopping to settle as you're throwing. He had more time than he thought.

#3117103 Al Wallace said Cam Newton will never be a franchise qb

Posted by Navy_football on 03 December 2014 - 03:02 PM

I'm way to lazy to do it right now... but could someone show how other teams drafting a QB at the #1 spot provided "weapons/offensive lineman" in subsequent drafts?


I'm only going off memory, but didn't Indy essentially dedicate their draft to building around Luck in 2012 and 2013? I know for a fact they brought in his college TE with their 2nd rounder Fleener.


How about Detroit? Calvin was already there when they drafted Stafford, but did they beef up the oline at least?


Sam Bradford?


Jamarcus Russell?


David Carr?


Carson Palmer?


Peyton Manning? I guess Eli as well?


Hell, let's even include RGIII. Though, the Redskins did bring in WR talent via FA this season. But, may have been too late since the injuries had already done him in - lack of oline.


Maybe Matt Ryan can be included too since he was so high.



#3109081 Hardy Coming Back?

Posted by Navy_football on 30 November 2014 - 10:17 AM

I still think it's Hardy pretending to be himself while not being actually being himself. Except it is.


#3107130 When Rex Ryan gets fired from the Jets he will be the most sought after D coo...

Posted by Navy_football on 28 November 2014 - 09:42 AM

OK with him as a DC. Not interested for him as head coach. He will stunt Cams growth and the offense as a whole just like he has to the jets and to mark Sanchez who is suddenly revitalized in philly. It's obviously his offensive system. He likely will not be available as a DC though.


Not sure why anyone would want to trade one offensively inept head coach for one that may be even worse on the offensive side of the ball.


Cam and this team needs an offensive minded HC that will be able to get the most out of Cam Newton. The future of Carolina is Cam Newton, not the defense.

#3102448 Odell Beckham Jr.

Posted by Navy_football on 23 November 2014 - 09:10 PM

One of the best catches I've ever seen...

#3098723 Offensive Focus Next Year?

Posted by Navy_football on 20 November 2014 - 02:47 PM

I think it's a bad idea to ever go into an NFL draft with the idea that you're gonna fill positions of need by choosing untested rookies. That's what FA is for. The draft should be used to infuse your team with new talent. Barring extreme situations, BPA is always the best approach.

#3087064 Did Cam call players meeting?

Posted by Navy_football on 14 November 2014 - 07:19 PM

But would he go full out laying into Byron and Nate's asses for not protecting Cam, ripping them apart in front of all of their teammates? He's a vocal leader but I'm not sure he will go the full lengths necessary.


I don't know. He doesn't seem like a politically correct, make sure every one feels good, type of person to me.

#3082718 The Truth - by SCP

Posted by Navy_football on 11 November 2014 - 08:07 PM

I'm not sure what this means.


I'm not sure what any of this means.

#3079696 Official Panthers - Eagles GameDay Thread

Posted by Navy_football on 10 November 2014 - 11:31 PM

That's called "faith" or "optimism." What you're saying is he needs to believe there's going to be one and that he's going to get a few seconds before having to dodge the body of one of his own linemen so he can be ready to make the throw when it unexpectedly presents itself. 


I mean seriously. I call a spade a spade when it comes to Cam.


But no QB  should have to dodge your own dang olinemen because they're getting manhandled by the defensive line. They are really our of their league right now.


I mean it's really really bad.

#3079587 Cam is Vick 2.0

Posted by Navy_football on 10 November 2014 - 11:23 PM

No, no, no, hell no....


Vick was a runner that could throw, not a QB that could run. Cam passed for over 4,000 yards as a rookie. I doubt Vick has ever passed for 4,000 yards in a season. Cam Newton is 3 times the passer Vick was. But, he isn't nearly the runner Vick was.


Cam Newton's primary problems are his oline, WRs and lack of an offensive minded HC.

#3079283 Official Panthers - Eagles GameDay Thread

Posted by Navy_football on 10 November 2014 - 11:02 PM

I don't care what you say about Cam, but Peyton and Brady wouldn't do much better than Cam tonight. This oline is not NFL caliber.

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