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#2876007 Andy Dalton...

Posted by Mike on 04 August 2014 - 09:57 AM

Bengals lol

Stupid decisions all around

How so?

Three seasons, three play off appearances. Led cent production. Granted he's had some inconsistency, but overall he's done a solid job for them. He's not elite, but he's certainly good enough to keep them competitive.

Now ok he's not won a play off game yet, but Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan both went 0-3 before winning their first play off game (the year they did both went to the conference championship game). So maybe Andy Dalton will have a similar career trajectory?

Anyway, with this deal and Kap's deal, I wonder what type of money Cam will get?

#2850528 We keep hearing Cho might rather make a trade....

Posted by Mike on 14 July 2014 - 06:12 PM

I think Rondo is a bit of a unique player though. He is a great defender, rebounder, and passer, but he does not score enough to a true number one player. I think his value really comes into play with him as a second or third guy that does so much.

He makes a lot more sense on a playoff team, so I think the Celtics probably move him. If you can get a decent return for him, it makes more sense than hoping that the Celtics will be championship caliber in the next 3-4 years.

If the Celtics clear cap space they can make a run at free agents next off season. I think the likes of Kevin Love (if he isn't dealt), LaMarcus Aldridge, Marc Gasol, Big Al (if he opts out) etc would rather have Rondo at PG than Smart...

If the Celtics can add a top tier free agent and hit lucky in the draft, they can start building themselves into a competitive outfit. Granted it might make sense to deal Rondo and get something for him, but what will a team offer for him?

The Kings might throw a first round pick their way plus Maccllum and McLemore; or a contender might throw some picks their way; but whatever the deal, unless it was too good to turn down, I'd keep Rondo and re-sign him.

I think Rondo, Bradley, Green, Young, Smart and co makes for a decent young core. Add another set of draft picks and add a big name free agent, and they can make progress. Some teams have risen quickly, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Celtics back as a force in the next couple of seasons.

#2850455 We keep hearing Cho might rather make a trade....

Posted by Mike on 14 July 2014 - 04:52 PM

Boston has done the same thing with Rondo for years and eventually they will cave, and I think it could be soon.


The difference with Rondo is the Celtics have won a championship and been to the play offs 6 out 8 seasons in his career. They are currently rebuilding, and while that is not something he will enjoy being a part of, the fact is they have an elite PG to build around. Generally teams don't give away elite players, and instead try to surround them with players that can help them compete for a championship.  


The Celtics have some decent pieces like Avery Bradley and Jeff Green, both guys can become contributors for them going forwards. Then there some young recent draft picks like Olynek, Smart and Young that can have bright futures. Now I'm not sure how good the Celtics will be this season, but if they can show signs of improvement and that they are heading in the right direction, it is possible that Rondo signs a new contract with them.


They might end up trading Rondo because they have Marcus Smart, but for me, I would rather build my team around an elite PG like Rondo than Marcus Smart. Don't get me wrong, Smart is talented, but has he the potential to become a better player than Rondo? I'm not convinced. 

#2849380 Marvin @ $7mil > Deng @ $10mil

Posted by Mike on 13 July 2014 - 05:59 PM

Just like p49 said, 3mill more for deng is the better value by far. Only thing saving williams is the PF, both have had injuries bugs. In a small lineup I think deng could pull off being being a PF.

Deng is a good value at $10 million, but I couldn't see him turning Miami down for us. They are a team with three championships, and are a well run team. They've got two all stars (Bosh and Wade), and some decent supporting players (McRoberts, Granger, Chalmers etc). If their starting five stays healthy, and their rotation is productive, they can compete for a high seed.

That said, I think Williams is a fair replacement for McRoberts, and perhaps the better fit for us. He's not going to set the world alight, but he's got the ability to contribute in the line up and bridge the gap until Zeller or Vonleh are ready [if they ever are]. The problem with Deng is it drops MKG to the bench, or forces the team to play a small line up. For me, PF was the bigger need for a veteran.

#2849290 Houston not matching Dallas for Parsons!

Posted by Mike on 13 July 2014 - 05:15 PM

Do Dallas still have enough money to sign Lance?

Not unless they find a trade partner for Monta Ellis. Next off season they get cap space back when Chandler's big deal ends.

I think Parsons is a good signing for them. Their PG is murky, but Ellis / Parsons / Dirk / Chandler is 4/5 of a decent starting line up.

#2846681 Nick Young Re-Signs with Lakers

Posted by Mike on 11 July 2014 - 05:27 PM

If they can re-sign Gasol and Kobe is healthy, they may have an interesting squad out there.

Jeremy Lin at the point
Kobe at the 2
Perhaps Randle at the 3
Gasol at the 4 or 5

I don't think Randle is suited to the 3. I think he has to go at 4, and Gasol at 5. Then they have to try and land a player for the 3 like Ariza or Deng, unless Melo decides to head to LA.


Posted by Mike on 11 July 2014 - 01:03 PM

Idk, I think Lebron could mirror Duncan in terms of longevity and productivity. Their styles change slightly, as they have to adjust, but his game could be effective for years even after the athleticism declines.

Agreed. He's great at getting to the rim, and he's become a very good jump shooter as well. LeBron is a dedicated player and will refine his game when certain aspects of it start to decline.

For me, LeBron could play for as long as Duncan and Dirk if he stays injury free.

#2831989 2014 NBA Draft Thread

Posted by Mike on 26 June 2014 - 07:34 PM

I really hope we just picked Vonleh for someone else.

McDermott was bad, but Vonleh might even be worse considering we just drafted Cody last year. WTF are we doing?!?!

Cody didn't exactly set the world alight. Plus, we either needed to draft a PF, re-sign McRoberts for a hefty salary increase, or sign a free agent. By getting Vonleh at #9 is a steal. He'd be a top prospect in some draft classes, and perhaps might have edged out Zeller last season.

A Vonleh/Zeller combination is good for the team.

#2830816 Hornets willing to part with #9 for Afflalo

Posted by Mike on 26 June 2014 - 02:56 AM

I don't think Kemba is getting 10-12. He's more in the range of 8-10. If he wants more, then see ya.

Before last season SI had him rated 11th among PG's in a tie for 10th with Irving. He's going to get a top level PG type contract in the 10-12+ range.

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Got to say I agree with Carolina-Chuck on Kemba's contract. I think he will be in the same paid grade as Jeff Teague and Brandon Knight [$8 million per season]. If you look at Teague's stats from last season he had a better FG, 3P, FT, APG and PPG on less minutes than Kemba [Teague averaged 3.6 mins less than Walker]. For me, I don't think Kemba should get another 2-4 million or more than the likes of Teague.


Posted by Mike on 25 June 2014 - 05:26 PM

Didn't think it was worthy of its own thread, but the Knicks and Mavericks look set to make the following trade:

- Mavs send/Knicks receive: Jose Calderon (pg), Shane Larkin (pg), Wayne Ellington (sg), Samuel Dalembert ©, #34 and #51.

- Knicks send/Mavs receive: Raymond Felton (pg) and Tyson Chandler ©

Seems like the Mavs are giving up a lot in this deal. But it does give them an upgrade at center, and a serviceable starting PG/decent back up. Perhaps this is the first move for them to make a run at a 'star'?

#2829215 Nick Young opts out

Posted by Mike on 24 June 2014 - 05:58 PM


How the hell did he even get a thread?

C'mon guys. Quit thinking mediocrity.

Nick Young played sixth man for the Lakers last season, averaged about 17ppg. What did our sixth man do for us?

Can't say I remember a very productive sixth man. When we bring Hendo or MKG off, we don't really have a kid that can score like Young did last season. So bringing the kid in to play the sixth man role would be an improvement.

You might say stop looking at guys like this, but if we are sticking with Hendo and MKG as starters, we need rotation options, scorers that can come off the bench - Nick Young fills that role. Now if the desire is to move Hendo or MKG to sixth man, and upgrade those positions (eg. we sign Stephenson and/or Deng, or a FA and then Butler via Chicago for the draft picks), then fair enough Nick Young isn't needed because Hendo and MKG as back ups are good players.

To say stop looking at mediocrity is a harsh statement when Young is likely to be a sixth man player, and that's a role he would give us a serious upgrade on.

#2827157 Melo Opts Out

Posted by Mike on 22 June 2014 - 02:31 PM

I think we have a chance to make a good argument to Melo signing here.


We have a talented roster with key players like Kemba and Jefferson, and an abundance of young talent like MKG, Taylor, Zeller and potentially three draft picks. We also had one of the best defenses last season, and that should give Melo freedom to play his way, and also support him in the fact that we won't always have to out gun opponents.


If we used our three draft picks, and added Melo, we could end up with something like this: 


PG: Walker / Spencer Dinwiddie or Vasilje Micic (#45)

SG: Henderson / Hairston (#24) / Taylor

SF: Melo / MKG / Taylor

PF: Gordon (#9) / McRoberts / Zeller

C: Jefferson / Biyombo / McRoberts


We certainly would have a strong line up and rotation. Melo brings the fire power, and the rest of the supporting cast brings offense and top level defense. I think Melo could do worse than consider coming to the Hornets, because he would certainly be coming to a team that can help him contend for a championship, and a team he can help contend and hopefully win a championship. 

#2826923 Straight up: Who are you sold on at #9?

Posted by Mike on 22 June 2014 - 05:32 AM

At #9 we will have options to either upgrade a starting position, or add a very good rotation option. Our base line up, before any additions in free agency is:

Kemba / ?
Henderson / ?
MKG / ?
Zeller / ?
Jefferson / Biyombo

At #9 we could upgrade the PF position if Gordon or Randle fall to #9. Though would Randle and Jefferson be a good pairing? Possibly not in terms of defense. Gordon would bring athleticism and defense to the position, and as such, would allow us to let McRoberts walk in free agency and use the money elsewhere. Plus, with development Gordon could improve offensively.

The other option would be to go for a SG like Stauskas, Harris or Young. They could be day on starters, or guys that spend their first season or so on the bench as a sixth man before replacing Henderson. I do like Stauskas and think he could start or play sixth man effectively from day one.

Alternatively we could look to add a back up to Kemba like Elfrid Payton, Tyler Ennis or Zach LaVine. Though if we believe Kemba is our long term PG going forwards, do we draft a backup high or wait until #24 or free agency to do so?

For me, my favored options at #9 are:

1. Gordon
2. Stauskas
3. Harris
4. LaVine
5. Young
6. Randle

#2826920 Pay Nick Young?!?

Posted by Mike on 22 June 2014 - 05:12 AM

If we brought him in on a team friendly deal, then he could be an excellent sixth man like he was for the Lakers last season. He would certainly give the rotation some added firepower either for the SG or SF position, and he could start when needed.

In terms of what we need to upgrade, Young can help with that. There will be those that feel he should start and Henderson plays sixth man, or vice versa; and some might argue he should start and MKG comes off the bench, or vice versa. Personally I am open to any scenario that makes us better, and signing Nick Young does that. If we are to contend and not be a run of the mill play off team, we need more firepower and players like Nick Young bring that to the table.

#2822631 LeBron in the purple and teal?

Posted by Mike on 17 June 2014 - 06:00 PM

It may sound a little strange, but I don't this place to be Lebron's next stop. By the way, didn't we get on Heat fans for bringing in all that star power and buying a championship? So what would that say about us if we followed their example, although it would only be Lebron coming to Charlotte. With all that said, I would rather see us win with team work and not be known as a great team because of one player.

What I really want is to bring in Kevin Love. Now he's a star in his own right, but he's not carrying the baggage of "best player in the world". I see him and Big Al as equals, and I see MKG and Kemba as emerging stars. With that group of guys leading the team, we can definitely win a few championships.

Last year when they went for Al Jefferson it was clear they didn't want to tank and lose more games. They wanted to win games. Now perhaps they didn't expect play off basketball, but they certainly wanted to make that jump. With that in mind, what is the next logical step for this team?

We hold the #9 and #24 picks in the draft and a second rounder. Do we simply add three prospects to nurture and develop, and hope that they can improve the team enough to push us up the standings? Or do we need to look at bringing a star, or at least another borderline star to this team to boost our chances of competing for a championship?

The problem we have now is that we aren't bad enough to get a potentially franchise changing player at the top of the draft, but we aren't good enough to win a championship. So that leaves two roads: 1 - blow up the team and start again, or 2 - sign a star or borderline star.

For me, the only way this team makes a jump and competes for a championship is if we 'buy it' by bringing in a mercenary like LeBron, Melo or Love. Now sure, it would be nice to build a team like the Spurs, predominantly through the draft, and win championships galore. But many teams have own championships by adding stars from other teams, and if the hornets are to win one, we'll need to 'buy it'.

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