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#722684 Not sold on Moore

Posted by Yardbird on 31 August 2010 - 11:01 PM

Matt Moore hype? Like Weinke hype? Must be reading different stuff from me. Moore earned his position by winning last season (something that was foreign to Weinke). And most everyone--including the Panther's organization--are hedging their bets on Moore's success.

Though the offense has looked rough this preseason I think we'll see some improvement between now and games 2-3. They need some positive plays and they need playmakers to generate those plays. The leaders that create such plays haven't been on the field.

Williams' carries have been limited. We aren't pounding D-lines the way we do during the regular season. DWill & Stewart's numbers usually come after the D-lines have been softened by early, (often) low-yardage body blows. Our passing emphasis has limited this strategy.

Furthermore, Stewart, Smith (and Otah) haven't been on the field. Otah's a beast on that right side; let's not forget how he factors in. It's easier to pass protect when you're sitting at 2 and 5 or 3rd and 4 than when you're at 3rd and 11. Defenses can't pin their ears back.

You basically have a rookie WR corps across the board. I know K. Moore and Jarret aren't rookies but their playing time has been minimal. The rest of the crew ARE rookies. Moore didn't suddenly forget how to play. But a QB needs teammates to step up. All throws aren't going to be picture-perfect. They still need to be caught if they hit your hands (LaFell!); you have to run correct routes and the QB needs to trust WRs to make the correct reads on the fly. If Moore is guessing where the WR is going to go, he'll hold onto the ball longer and stare down a receiver. But this is less of an issue when Smitty is on the field. Moore trusts Smitty, he trusts Rosario. And both have come up big for Moore at different times. I think our first two games will show some improvements in all these areas.

#676691 Armanti Edwards....

Posted by Yardbird on 03 August 2010 - 03:33 PM

I'm late to this party and haven't read the whole thread yet. But here are some thoughts before they escape.

Key hot topic: Edwards was drafted at too high a price because of the 2nd rounder given to the Pats.

It may be instructive to look at this move in light of other draft-day deals over the past three years. Doing so could provide insight into the Panthers' current draft philosophy as well as their business model. Two points:

1) I believe the Panthers are confident in the young, blue-chip talent currently on the roster.
2) Panthers were ranked 17th most valuable sports franchise in the world.

RE #1: The Panthers believe they have the high-level talent they need to succeed. Because of this, they are willing to take some calculated personnel-risks. When/if picks pay off (e.g., Captain, perhaps Hardy--fingers crossed) then the panthers strike gold. They get premium talent at a bargain price which enables them to finance contracts of proven long-term performers such as Williams, Gross, Smith, Gamble. They'll be adding players like Kalil (hopefully) and Beason to that list. Expensive first-round risks can compromise their ability to keep experienced, high-level players.

Comparing Bradford's recent contract to JaMarcus Russell's, Bradford got 18 million more in guaranteed money than Russell did a few years ago. Top 10 draft picks are extraordinarily expensive and can be risky value propositions. Missing on a top 10 pick can set a franchise back significantly. Later first round picks may not be as bad but they're still expensive. Mr. Richardson prizes the value of his franchise. At this point and time (read: pre-collective bargaining agreement) why would Richardson want to take risks in the first-round? He has talent, he wants to keep developed talent, and he wants to maximize the value of his franchise. Later round picks offer greater potential value.

RE#2: The Panthers are a small market team. Their rank indicates they've been managed with a plan and through discipline. Small market teams don't crack a global top 20 list by accident or through sheer luck.

When it comes to drafting, they prefer to play with house money. What do I mean and how does this relate to Edwards?

If management believes they have the appropriate amount of top-level talent on their roster (and this talent is expected to stick around) then they might be hesitant to bet on first round talent when better value (and potential home-runs candidates) could be available in later rounds.

With regard to the Edwards' pick, they saw great value in his potential. They dealt a second for him but don't be surprised if they trade next year's first to recoup this second and pick up a later pick.

They don't want a first rounder in today's economic climate. The value proposition doesn't fit their business model nor where they are in terms of their player development cycle. If they lose on Edwards, too bad. They'll recoup the Edwards pick on a draft-day trade. As fans it might be hard to imagine giving up a first but we don't manage the books nor are we responsible for a 3-5 year strategic vision.

The operative personnel philosophy in Panthers-land is to maintain a healthy ratio of premium talent vs. value talent. They can maximize the value side of that spectrum through well-placed calculated risks and the occasional payoff. At this point and time, this strategy can be financed through giving up ultra-expensive first-round picks.

Remember, Richardson is at the helm trying to drive player salaries back into a manageable range. Once the collective bargaining reaches closure they'll probably re-evaluate their draft day strategies. I don't think it's an accident they've been allergic to first-round drafts for the past several years. They are fortunate that player development has put them in a position where they can be competitive without having to depend on first rounders. Of course, there may be some longer-term repercussions but we'll have to wait and see about those!

All that to say the Armanti deal might not have been as big of a risk to the Panthers as we think. It's all speculation and may not be worth what you paid to read it--but now I'm done.

Sheez. Had no idea my first post would be this long!

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