Our defense is irrelevant Zod. As soon as Newton throws a pick, they've shown they dont have what it takes to win. This is one man show til I see us win games without our QB playing perfect. I dont think I will see anything raving about our D today except on this board. We made our bed, we have to sleep in it.
KT, if you don't think that the D played infinitely better than the O yesterday, I am afraid we don't have much to discuss.
Our defense is really good, you can credit them with winning us 1 game in 2 years.
If we're playing like a top 10 defense, what was Denver's D playing like yesterday?
You guys lowered their expectations last year because they sucked so bad and want to act like they're playing great even though they dont beat nobody. Top 10 defenses win games even when their QB is off. Top 10 defenses dont give games away on final drives to mediocre QBs. This is the defense that struggled stopping Curtis Painter last year, and made Matt Ryan look like Brett Favre this year.
Are you arguing the stats that prove they are a top 10 defense are wrong?
How many turnovers did they force yesterday? How many extra opportunities did the offense have? Did they capitalize?
Top 10 defenses can make up for a mediocre offense and win games.
Top 10 defenses do not win games when an offense is completely impotent.
How many games has our defense won for us? Who are the stars on this D?
Improvement from last year isnt saying much. We went from being doormats to solid occassionaly now we're the 85 bears?
They are playing like a top 10 defense currently.
Considering how long they have been on the field this year, one could argue they are the reason the Panthers have been in any games at all. Hell, the offense and special teams allowed nearly as many points as they did yesterday.
Why do you have it in for the defense? Aren't you happy they look like a legit NFL unit, unlike the offense?