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I Mean He Was Found Guilty

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#3334743 Check out this gem from Saints Report

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 26 April 2015 - 10:41 AM

the responses were oddly reasonable considering what i'm used to from that board




#3334730 What are your realistic expectations of draft picks?

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 26 April 2015 - 10:32 AM

this is my dumb armchair GM belief system:

 

1st round - needs to be a productive, reliable starter within a season or two while showing something as a rookie.  the "starter" designation is less important if it's a position that gets rotated heavily or if it's a quarterback drafted to sit behind an established veteran.  in that case they just need to be productive when given snaps if they get the opportunity.  if a player from this round busts it hurts the worst.

 

2nd round - needs to eventually become a starter or fit into a rotation.  it would be disappointing if they don't show anything (think dwayne jarrett) as a rookie.  busts still hurt but the expectations are lower and the value of the pick is smaller the further away from the last pick of the first it is.  spending what turned into the 33rd pick in 2011 to get armanti edwards in 2010, for example, was a major blunder as that's about as valuable as a second round pick can be.  development time for DL and OL positions needs to be considered here as the prospects that fall to this point in the draft may not be as polished as their first round counterparts.  also need to look at position groups and consider whether it's reasonable for a non-first round rookie to challenge established veterans for snaps.

 

3rd round - needs to at least fit into a rotation or contribute on special teams at some point.  it's less disappointing but still slightly worrisome if they don't show any flashes as a rookie or second year player.  at this point it's to be expected that a rookie from this round would have trouble breaking into a stacked position group.

 

4th round - 6th round - players selected in these rounds don't earn the "bust" label if they fail to become starters or contributors.  expectations for prospects drafted in these rounds are depth/special teams.  if a player from this round turns into a good rotational player then it's a good pick.  if they turn into a starter or all pro/pro bowler then it's a great pick.

 

7th round - UDFA - i'm not disappointed by these picks not making the final roster.  if they challenge for playing time then they've exceeded expectations.  if they become productive starters then that's outstanding.




#3334700 Edmund Kugbila

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 26 April 2015 - 10:08 AM

And yes, you can find an OL who was drafted after Kugbila who has had more success.  I bet for every one you find drafted after Kugbila that succeeded, I can find one who was drafted before Kugbila and failed.  One case does not prove a point.

 

like most 4th rounds it consisted of one or two solid players with name recognition surrounded by a bunch of guys nobody has ever heard of:

 

http://en.wikipedia..../2013_NFL_draft




#3334283 Hardy Now Looking to Rough Up Another Woman...Mother Nature

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 25 April 2015 - 06:57 PM

he was driving it to wendy's to get a salad




#3334180 The Panthers are a candidate to trade up for Andrus Peat, DJ Humphries or Ced...

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 25 April 2015 - 04:48 PM

good poo fidel cashflow i totally didn't see it on the first page




#3334146 Panthers exercise 5th year option on Kuechly

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 25 April 2015 - 04:12 PM

I hope Im wrong, you think dave gettelman shovels out all that cash because I just can't

 

why do you think we've been eating off the FA dollar menu for two years




#3333629 Want to see the most annoying poo on Twitter?

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 24 April 2015 - 09:46 PM

we prefer to call him Super Bowl Champ Robert Wilson III

 

 

and you?  first pick overall, hides under a towel and pouts ain't won poo QB?

 

Spoiler




#3333033 Nicks to Titans.

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 24 April 2015 - 12:35 PM

the panthers maybe haven't done a lot to drop as many wide receivers around cam as possible but you're just being a hard headed idealogue if you look at a 1000 yard first round rookie receiver and make up a bunch of excuses for why it doesn't count

 

edit: the pro bowl tight end on this team seemingly doesn't come up in these discussions much either




#3332489 Jacksonville Fans... Poor Bastards

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 23 April 2015 - 09:37 PM

T Kirk 2 hours ago

Yes Panthers fans, I know you have Benjamin and Olson. But who's throwing them the ball?


bless his little heart he's trying so hard


#3331477 Dear Carolina Panthers FO

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 23 April 2015 - 07:38 AM

dear panthers fo,

 

just a heads up but this site is going to hate you when you don't double dip at wideout in the first two rounds.  also i know you don't give a hot poo what a bunch of armchair GMs who don't have to write million-plus dollar checks think but this is more of a rhetorical exercise and whatnot

 

-your pal IMHWFG




#3330464 Greg Hardy suspended 10 games

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 22 April 2015 - 03:21 PM

sorry i'm late but fire gettleman i can't believe gettledouche let him walk fug jerry and his team of choirboys etc




#3328223 Who do we open the season with?

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 20 April 2015 - 09:03 PM

@Tampa as per usual.

 

4:15 PM kickoff




#3327416 So it's 4/20

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 20 April 2015 - 10:08 AM

Spoiler




#3326893 49er player suggests Harbaugh might be 'clinically insane'

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 19 April 2015 - 06:09 PM

he'll be more effective in michigan yelling at scared 18 year olds who are away from their parents for the first time in their lives than grown men




#3326885 The chosen one is returning to the NFL

Posted by I Mean He Was Found Guilty on 19 April 2015 - 06:04 PM

The Golden Calf of Bristol-pick-.gif