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MHS831

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#3154212 Atl Falcons elite defense?

Posted by MHS831 on Yesterday, 10:53 PM

They give up nearly 300 yards per game in the air.  They give up over 100 on the ground-

 

32nd in the league vs the pass.  Reason?  They bring the safeties up to help stop the run (they are about 18th vs the run).  The last time we played them, Cam was staying in the pocket.  This time, they will have to keep a S in the box.  Stew is running on fresh legs.  The OL is firing on all cylinders.  If they think they have the defense to stop us, they have not done the math.




#3152900 Future is bright at the CB position

Posted by MHS831 on 25 December 2014 - 10:01 AM

Anyone actually realize that norman is already 27 years old? He's not exactly a young player. I was kinda bummed when I saw that. Richard Sherman is a year younger and has already established himself.

 

He was 24 when we drafted him.  He can still give us 4 good years.




#3152065 Rookies turning this thing around

Posted by MHS831 on 24 December 2014 - 11:27 AM

This is fantastic. The more they play together the better they will get. We have a very good future lined up for us.

Agreed.

If people can't see Gettlemen's strategy now, may the football gods have mercy on their souls.  He said, "TD scorers (Benjamin, Brown), pass rushers (Ealy) and QB (Cam).  He also said "Big men help you compete" (Turner, Norwell, Remmers, Star, Short). No money for free agency, he has done this with smoke and mirrors.  This is what he meant by "building the roster from the bottom up".

 

You have to be pumped by this--

 

Before                                                                                    After

We needed 2 starting CBs                                                     We need a nickel

We needed 2 safeties                                                            We need a SS

We needed a G, LT, and RT                                                  We need a LT

We needed a DE to replace Hardy                                        We are probably set at DE

We needed a deep threat WR, a #2 WR                               We need a #2 WR

 

The list on the right is manageable; many teams have lists that size.  The list on the left, however, would be incredibly difficult to remedy in one offseason.  This team is building




#3152042 Rookies turning this thing around

Posted by MHS831 on 24 December 2014 - 11:05 AM

NOTE: This article was about the Week 16 starters.  It does not even mention Ealy, who has been effective lately.




#3152027 Rookies turning this thing around

Posted by MHS831 on 24 December 2014 - 10:54 AM

Damn Gettlemen sucks.




#3152024 Rookies turning this thing around

Posted by MHS831 on 24 December 2014 - 10:52 AM

http://espn.go.com/b...olina-panthers/

 

Great article by Newton (extends his video report-scroll to second article)

 

  • Andrew Norwell, LG: The undrafted rookie out of Ohio State was inactive the first six games. He made his first start in the eighth game at left guard when Amini Silatolu was injured. The Panthers have rushed for 100 yards or more in every game he's played.
  • Trai Turner, RG: Injuries have played havoc with the third-round pick out of LSU since training camp. But he's been healthy the last five in which the offensive line finally has developed chemistry.
  • Kelvin Benjamin, WR: The 28th pick of the draft out of Florida State has been a force since Week 1 and a top candidate for the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year. He has 72 catches, the most among Carolina wide receivers, for a team-best 999 yards and nine touchdowns.
  • Philly Brown, WR: The undrafted rookie out of Ohio State made veteran Jason Avantexpendable last month. He gives the Panthers the speed and deep threat the offense has been missing. While he hasn't caught a lot of deep balls, just the threat of him forces defense to change coverage.
  • Adarius Glanton, LB: The undrafted rookie out of Florida Atlantic made his first start Sunday when A.J. Klein was placed on the inactive list with an ankle injury. He played 57 percent of the snaps, finishing third on the team in tackles with five, including a tackle for a loss.
  • BenĂ© Benwikere, CB: The fifth-round pick out of San Jose State was the nickel corner at the beginning of the season before an ankle injury sidelined him for six straight games. He moved into the role as every-down corner the past three games after veteran Antoine Cason was released. He has an interception, a forced fumble and two fumble recoveries.
  • Tre Boston, FS: The fourth-round pick out of North Carolina missed most of the offseason and preseason recovering from a sports hernia. He was inactive for the first five games. He replaced veteran Thomas DeCoud the past three games and has played every snap.



#3151587 I think josh Norman was crying after he fumbled

Posted by MHS831 on 23 December 2014 - 08:54 PM

I think Forest Gump has a few quotes that summarize Norman's decision-making.




#3148950 How bad is Ron Rivera?

Posted by MHS831 on 22 December 2014 - 09:37 AM

Personally, I hate him as a game manager but you have to pay attention to what is going on right now to judge--

 

This team did not fall apart.  The defense was fixed after an early season meltdown (they are now 14th--they were around 30th at one time). The offensive line is much better, especially in the run game, but Cam is not getting sacked like he was. 

 

Look at the growth we got from the Rookies we drafted--.

Benjamin will be our first 1000-yard WR in some time.

Ealy is showing signs of being a nice ;ate second-round find.

Turner stepped into the RG spot for good about the time the line improved.

Boston has been solid after a late start.

Binwikere has been a stud--I now see why we traded up in the fifth round.

 

THEN there is this group (hats off to Gettlemen and his staff, Rivera and his staff):

Philly Brown is showing major strides as a rookie.  He is a high character guy who will be here for a long time.

Norwell probably just became our left guard.  He and Turner have turned the run game around.

 

If you throw in Remmers, Bersin, Whittaker, etc.  You see how this team has improved based on the improvement of the rookies and players at the bottom of the roster.  It tells me that some coaching is going on.

 




#3141187 Huddle question: Do they pay Cam next year?

Posted by MHS831 on 17 December 2014 - 10:02 PM

All contracts are based on future production. You never pay for past performance. You pay for what you think you are going to get from the player out of the life of the contract.


Through the first six weeks of the season cam was the highest rated QB in the league from PFF and was an MVP candidate then his oline got riddled with injuries and you saw the drop. Cam was killing it purely from the pocket due to his injury.

I don't think you really know what you're talking him tbh

.  Your argument reveals inconsistent performance.  You say Cam was great behind the OLINE during weeks 1-6 and he was "killing it from the pocket" (by the way, there were 9 QBs with higher qb ratings during Cam's hot streak) but then you blame the OLINE because he dropped off statistically. That makes no sense.  It reveals that you give Cam credit for his success but blame his shortcomings on others--no wonder you have trouble making points.

 

Frankly, I am tired of having selective stats thrown at me from obscure sources to prove to me that Cam is great.  My point is this--he has not proven he can win consistently and he has shown that his style of play leads to lingering injuries.  He needs to run to win.  These facts are consistent with his record as a qb. The NFL QB is measured by wins and losses. There are not many great qbs on bad teams and there are not many great teams with bad qbs.  They are connected, which is why great QBs are measured by rings.  Nobody measures greatness by a six-game stretch where a qb has a hot streak according to some website.  Your argument is embarrassing.

 

Cam has all the tools and may be great with more support.  However, he has not earned a top contract given to elite qbs because he is not elite at this time--even if PFF thinks so.  I pray he will be, and I am excited about his potential when we put studs and stars around him, but he is what he is right now.  Giving him $120 million or so could wreck the franchise if he does not improve and become more consistent.  It is a huge gamble, and if you do not see it, you are biased.  I want him to be great, but if you are crowning him the MVP, you don't understand this game.




#3129789 Cam's injury

Posted by MHS831 on 11 December 2014 - 08:31 AM

The only thing I have heard to dispute that theory is the fact that he was sore in the area after the accident and was not before.  However, the accident could have aggravated the injury--I am not sure anyone will know for sure, but it does seem a bit curious.




#3128281 I'll have some of what Bruschi is smoking

Posted by MHS831 on 10 December 2014 - 07:57 AM

Statistics are overrated.  The bottom line--winning and losing.  Fantasy football has everyone screwed up.




#3125677 Peter King on Cam and Carolina

Posted by MHS831 on 08 December 2014 - 08:21 PM

Wait, did King just give Cam credit for something? 

 

Yes, and it is probably the first time this season he has earned it.  The same OL, same WRs, same OC, same Rivera.  Different result.  These variables seem to have been overcome this week, and Cam was brilliant. 

 

Cam was brilliant not because the OL was great--they seemed better because Cam was getting rid of the ball.  I did not do an exhaustive study, but he was not holding it much longer that 3 seconds.  Before, he held it 4 seconds or more at times. 

 

He anticipated blitzes and threw to the weakness created by the blitz.  Before, he ran from the blitz.

 

The running game worked.

 

Cam created the differences--the OL and WRs didn't suddenly start getting it.  They played well because they were getting the ball early and not having to sustain blocks long. 

 

Hats off to the game plan, to Cam, and to everyone who waited until the right moment to praise Cam--like King.




#3125666 Al Wallace said Cam Newton will never be a franchise qb

Posted by MHS831 on 08 December 2014 - 08:12 PM

It's not because of race... It's because our fans are idiots.

 

And no more evidence of that is needed than this thread.

 

Six bad games and one good game.  Lets lock him down. 

 

Cam needs consistency.  That takes time.  When he does this for 2 games, for a half season, for a full season---we should act as if he is the second coming.  Until then, he is a work in progress.  I love loyalty, fandom, etc.  but signing an unproven (yes, he is uproven) qb to a $100 million deal is a huge gamble.

 

Signs are positive after the Saints game--that is all we can honestly say.  The Saints have a bottom-three defense.  Not ready to design a Cam postage stamp, but I am encouraged by what I saw.  Sorry people, I just don't think you can build a franchise around a QB who moonlights as a RB (taking hits) and one whose play is bipolar--great, or needs excuses.




#3120264 What percentage is it Cam's Fault?

Posted by MHS831 on 06 December 2014 - 10:53 AM

Yes Shula system is a perfect example of a offense not made for big numbers by WR'S. The numbers point that out over his career and all the offenses he has ran.


You brought up statistics and then run away when people give you a example. . Ted Ginn had the best season of his career here. That is a example of Cam elevating a player who was primarily a special teamer every where but here.

Also look up Olsen's numbers they are the highest of his career as well.

 

I just think excuses are for losers.  Everyone has to deal with adversity.  I have had cancer twice, but I have friends who bitch more about a cold than I ever did about my disease.  I understand that the cards are not favorable right now, but champions step up, losers point fingers.  It is that simple to me.  Behind the same OL and using the same WRs (except Benjamin had less experience), Derek Anderson has a QB rating of 115 this year in 4 appearances and 1 start.  Cam's qb rating is 79, the lowest in his career and about 10 points below his rookie season.  Somehow, you see him as great and being held back by others.  I think I am nice when I say, "We don't know how good he can be."  Frankly, elite qbs don't need to be surrounded by elite talent to be good-that is what you do for below-average qbs.

 

A TE leading your team in receiving in the NFL is not a good thing--as bad as your QB leading the team in rushing. 




#3120247 What percentage is it Cam's Fault?

Posted by MHS831 on 06 December 2014 - 10:31 AM

You do know Manning also had atleast 4 to 5 legitimate pass catching option right?

 

They did not have 4 to 5 legitmate pass catching options before he got there.  He makes average into good, good into great.  He makes his OL and his WRs successful by being accurate and consistent.  They know when and where to expect the ball.  He reads quickly and delivers the ball in 2.8 seconds on average.  They are all  on the same page.  He holds them responsible and leads on the field and on the sideline.  He makes an offense great when others make excuses. 






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