I been saying this all along, out of all the players available, we had the best shot with Gordon. We made an offer, maybe too aggressive of an offer but you have to be aggressive when your dealing with restricted free agents, especially against a team that has a lot of money to play with.
I believe we loose out of Gordon because Utah is desperate and really has their backs against the wall. In the end, we will leave this free agency period with nothing accomplished. I agree that we should continue to save, but I think deep down MJ is getting sick and tired of being called cheap for one and secondly, he is wants to start off this new Hornets era by showing fans that the ownership is committed to the brand. This summer did not go according to plan.
I expect the Jazz to match. Like i said before, desperation has kicked in for them. They pretty much have no chance now to find a replacement and Gordon is it. We could have offered him $18/m a year and I bet they match it. haha
What frustrates me is that so many fans want this deal to fall through, because they believe in their heart of hearts that the Hornets have a legitimate shot at signing a top tier free agent. I just don't get it. Maybe they've played fantasy GM on too many video games. I have heard no reports of big time players setting up interviews with MJ and company. Yet, people are like, "let Gordon walk, I want Lance".
What is going to happen is, Gordon goes and Lance signs elsewhere. Free agency ends and we have nothing to show for it, and people will wish that we had gotten Gordon. I'm not going to sit here and say that Gordon is a gem either, because he has his flaws but to act like Charlotte can get anybody they want and that beggars can be choosers is pretty dumb IMO.
For those complaining about the Hornets' front office offering Hayward what they did, I don't get it. The team had to go in strong to have a realistic shot at getting him to sign. If we offered him $13/m a year, 100% chance the Jazz match it. I believe at $16/m, we moved the odds in our favor.
Look, I really wanted Stephenson but let's be real about this. For one, Hayward played with Al, he's a team guy that can score, and that means a lot with chemistry. Secondly, do you really believe that the Hornets could land Stephenson? Think about it. Right now, everybody is sort of holding their breath on Lebron and Carmelo. The Bulls, Lakers, Rockets, Mavs are all in play here. They each want one of these guys. If something happens to Lebron, they'll turn their attention to Melo. If something happens to Melo, they'll turn their attention to Lebron. At the end of the day, if Lebron or Melo are gone, they will blow money on their cash on their third option which is Stephenson.
The way I see it, the Lakers for instance are talking to Melo and Lebron it sets up a scenario. If neither chooses LA, the Lakers will then throw the max at Stephenson. At the end of the day, Stephenson is waiting on Lebron and Melo's decision because that's guaranteed money with the Lakers. Let's also assume Stephenson gets offers from both Charlotte and/or the Lakers, New York, Dallas, etc. Even if all teams offer the max, you really think he chooses a smaller market size like Charlotte over a big one? No way.
I believe MJ and company know this. They see the chips falling with Melo likely going to Chicago or New York, Lebron staying in Miami and then a frustrated LA team throwing every penny at Stephenson. I just don't see a scenario where Stephenson comes to Charlotte. At the end of the day, I believe the Hornets' front office knows the chance of getting Stephensen wasn't going to happen and their most realistic option, to find a scorer, was Hayward.
Again, to make it happen... we had to show a solid deck to Utah. $16/m is what it took. We can argue all day that Stephensen was a better player but he didn't even schedule a time to interview with us. He has his mind set on LA, and is just waiting for Lebron to stay in south beach and the Lakers to call him when that happens. End of story.
I bet if the Jazz do match our office sheet, we will not land a better free agent this year. This is really our best opportunity, like it or not.
I know a lot of people say that Stevenson isn't a franchise player, but I sort of disagree. That Pacers run reminded me a lot of the Thunder, when Durant and Westbrook played with James Harden. A lot of people thought Harden was the underlying key to their success and could be a franchise player elsewhere when you removed the spotlight that Durant hogged.
I remember MJ wanting to trade for him, but it didn't happen. In that small way, Stevenson reminds me of Harden and I think, what you are getting is potentially a franchise player. Just look back at that game 2 against the Heat, when Lance just took over and hit almost 60% from the field. He has that ability to just go off and hit buckets in big games which is what Charlotte desperately needs.
His stats are what they are, but there is only so much ball to go around in Indy. His potential is endless in Charlotte.
The way I see it, there is no way a market like Charlotte could land a Lebron or Carmelo (I'd be shocked if they even got in a scheduled interview) but Lance is one of those guys that a small market will take a big chance on and what they might get, is a potential franchise player.
hmmm... they're just giving their opinion guys. Dave just happens to like the Chiefs road uniforms and the 49ers. This isn't about what fans voted for, it's his opinion. Maybe he doesn't like the color blue.
Cho is no dummy. This was smart. He got the guy he wanted all along and got a few extra picks in the process. He saw Miami wanted him, so he snagged him and said, "what will you give us for him?". Making moves like this in the past, is what we were missing.
Will he end up being a great player? Not sure. BUT Cho played this smart.
I told some of my friends who recently moved to Charlotte from California that the Charlotte area is as loyal, passionate, & obsessed with the Hornets as any other city with any other sport in the whole damn country. They laughed, but it's the truth. 364 consecutive sellouts of an enormous arena don't lie.
A lot has changed in Charlotte since the Hornets had their consecutive sellouts, but it is true that Charlotte loves basketball and the Hornets brand is a much easier brand to sell than the Bobcats.
Still, when Shinn brought the Hornets to Charlotte it was the only game in town. Years later, the Panthers arrived and the team found itself competing for the local sports dollar. Jordan will not have it as easy as Shinn did, but he's put himself in a position to do much better than the Bobcats ever would.
It's funny how you hear a lot of people talk about how a name change won't make the team winners. Sure, it won't. BUT if you can win or loose with a team name that means something instead of win or loose with a generic name you stole from some little league jersey, why not?
I have not heard one person give me a good argument as to why they should have ever kept the current name. Instead, the argument is against the name change. It makes absolutely no sense.
Considering the NBA uses a salary cap, it really comes down to market size for a lot of these high profile guys. A lot of the bigger free agents just aren't dying to play in smaller markets like Charlotte, Salt Lake City, or Sacramento. Ever once in awhile a place like Oklahoma City lands a talent like Durant that loves the city or San Antonio with Duncan but those examples are few and far between.
Charlotte is in a tough position to land big time talent, just because the NBA chooses to sort of ignore them as a NBA franchise. Heck, I was watching an ad about the playoffs on the NBA on TNT and the ads showed highlights of every team in the playoffs (guys blocking a shot, shooting threes, dunking it hard) every team except Charlotte.
82 games played this season and not one game on national television. If your a star player trying to build your brand, in what way is that slightly appealing?
Honestly, I don't get the NBA's approach to marketing a handful of the same teams every year. It's been like this since I started to follow the NBA during the Jordan/Bulls runs. Even the NFL recognizes the power of markets like Charlotte and Green Bay. The NFL may not put Charlotte on the same level as Dallas or San Francisco in the eyes of NFL executives (don't get me wrong), they also don't ignore them completely either. I can't say the same about how the NBA treats smaller markets themselves.
That being said, I just don't see us landing a high profile free agent. I could see us drafting a kid who loves the city and wants to stick around, like Durant in Oklahoma City or Duncan in San Antonio. Otherwise, I just don't see it. Even if Jordan forks over the money to make Charlotte enticing to somebody like Carmelo Anthony, there is so much more Carmelo can do for himself in a market like Chicago or L.A.
Most of the Redskin fans here in Richmond hate this signing and him lol.
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I have two friends, both of which are big 'Skins fans, who love this move.
I also think the Redskins and their fans, never learn their lesson. They have a knack for spending big time money on free agents and not getting much out of it. Snyder knows little about chemistry and watch this move blow up in their face. The Eagles don't wash their hands clean of a guy like that for nothing, unless there is a lot more going on there.
Like most of you, I grew up watching Smitty play... and it's tough any time a fan has to see his favorite player go. Even if his level of play has diminished over the years, you can't help but look at the past and everything he's met to our franchise. BUT this is a business. Smitty will count $7 million against the cap this year (not $2 million that I've heard some people say). I understand why Gettleman is doing what he is doing, as much as it sucks. I just hope we can get SOMETHING for him.
I'm also hoping that he lands in Denver. I always wanted to see how he would be with a really good QB. Not to say Cam isn't great, because he's gotten much better with throwing since his rookie year but his accuracy still Payton precise at times (let's not kid ourselves) and for Smitty to play with Payton at this stage of his career would be fun to watch.
Still, hoping the Panthers beat the Broncos when we play them.
So, let me get this straight... Richie gets on twitter before the report comes out and tweets Martin publicly, "the truth is going to bury you". What report did he think was getting released? What an absolute f***ing idiot.
Could you imagine texting another coworker the stuff he texted? They wouldn't even give you time to clear your desk!!! He told Martin he was going to murder his whole family and rape his sister without a condom and there were people here even SUGGESTING that we consider him.