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Everything posted by FootballMaestro

  1. I mean, either way you're going to be second guessed on your decision there. Nonetheless, this is why I thought a quick pass (something they weren't expecting, but was executed through out the game) may have worked better there. Speaking about "quick passes": Many of us (me included) said for years that Cam and Short/Quick passes were a product of the OL and coaching. Not that it wasn't something he couldn't expressly do (as many here wanted us to believe), considering how talented; football smart and hard worker Cam was at Carolina. Well, after his first game: All we heard was 'oh, all he can do is throw the short passes now'. LOL. And in his Sunday night game, he did both (short and long) passes beautifully with a high percentage. It's still early in the season , yes. But, Gee/I guess that coaching is worth something after all, isn't it (cue your CH GIF)!?
  2. You're correct. The Player to REPLACE CAM (if there ever is such a thing) will more likely be someone from the draft you least expect, or an already established player that comes to the Panthers and blossoms.
  3. Yeah. It's a combination of them being dumb, and/or not caring and just selling a narrative thru group think. And of course, not a lick of it needs to be true. That's the way it always is, has been.
  4. Not only that but the media (like in so many other areas) never reminds of us the truth (especially when they or the people they claim to quote are wrong). They just move on and talk about other things as if they never happened. Then the next year, they start all over again shamelessly telling you what the "scouts" allegedly said about whatever player they're shilling for to sell you more magazines; web clicks and ratings, knowing that 50-90% will be wrong anyway. SMH
  5. Yupppp. I was trying to say this earlier in another quote, illustrating that the "scouts", and more so the (lying, captured) media are way more times wrong than people realize.
  6. Yeah. I definitely liked Luck. But the overpraise for him, and the nonsense with Cam by idiot media (not the cognoscenti who knew the deal) became so obvious and tiresome. Some of that even filtered into the fan base on boards like this, cause they either couldn't judge things for themselves or find honest media, accounts that countered it.
  7. I hear ya there. However, I wasn't judging Luck on wins or coaching (though his was better than Cam's IMO). I was judging him on talent; impact and decision making, and it wasn't what they said it was. And IIRC, Indy purposefully dismantled that team the previous year for Luck (by jettisoning Peyton for example), thus had a better team than it's record indicated when he was dratted. That helped with his first year record. Full disclosure: I watched both Luck and Cam's first few seasons. And I feel Cam not only did more with less (particularly the coaching handicap). But I also feel he was the more impressive player. The alleged marksmen type accuracy (as an example) that Luck was supposed to posses was never on display. He was never an Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady; Joe Montana/Steve Young type as they alleged he was. He was more your typical big, rugged competent QB with some drive and skills who made some occasional mistakes in key moments.
  8. Pretty much. Yup. He was good. However, some here want to act like he was transformative, which he was not. And I've tried to avoid the Cam comparison (though it was probably undeclared in the back of my mind) to discuss Luck in a vacuum. But you're right. The media overrated Luck, and criminally underrated Cam. And Luck certainly wasn't the talent which they said he was (though good). Far from it.
  9. No. You're the WRONG one comparing him to Peyton Manning, which he was not, never was!! By that logic, I guess you feel Lawrence will be Peyton Manning, and what Luck was supposed to be as well? Come on, lay it on the line! But you know you can't say that. LOL
  10. Yeah. I haven't watched Lawrence enough to definitely say he'll be a bust or what level he'll fall. However, just from what I know from being involved with scouting and sports management in the past (along with being a plain ole fan watching). I know the process isn't nearly as proficient as people think it is, especially with what hits the press (many times sales pitches). Even today, many Panther fans think Cam wasn't going to be the Panthers pick, though (not only was he clearly the best player) the Panthers were completely sold on, and smitten by him. I saw the scouting reports, and was familiar with the Panther Brass at the time. And it was no contest, despite what many in the media wanted to say. That's the kinda stuff we have to be aware or guard against sometimes.
  11. I didn't say he wasn't good. He was. I'm saying, he wasn't transformative; explosive, and/or the talent they said he was. Big difference. He was good, but decently flawed as well.
  12. Luck was never the QB they said he was when he came into the league. It took him a few years to make impact. He wasn't that good. However, the media kept telling you he was, overlooking his deficiencies. I'm not telling you he was bad. Not at all. I'm just saying, he wasn't nearly as good as they told you he was. I watched him play (as I did Cam), so I'm not just shooting from the hip here. Lucks decision making under pressure (most QB's Achilles heel) left something to be desire most times. He also could be confused and make some bad picks, regardless of pressure. That alone should illustrate he wasn't the QB they said he was. I know some Panther fans were smitten with getting him. Just because they said he was the 'greatest prospect since Peyton Manning", etc., doesn't mean it was true. And he certainly didn't show that on the field during his NFL tenure. He was competent to good, to sometimes very good. But certainly not consistently very good-even before the injuries.
  13. Yeah. But they were clearly wrong on Luck (even before the injuries). So, keep in mind: The scouts are wrong more often than they are right when evaluating "great" QB's from college. So take it with a grain of salt. Many times, it's done for political reason or through Group Think.
  14. Yeah. Lotta frozen ropes (or at least )-cross field passes like he was doing when he first came up.
  15. You hate it as a Panthers fan. But we all know, it would have been better for Cam's career to leave Carolina years ago, and away from RR; Gettleman, and Marty Hurney's care. That last big contract really hurt Cam, as that's where he was virtually left alone to accumulate so many injuries, while he took the easy/big money to stay in Carolina.
  16. Yeah. This, while he continually handcuffed Cam during his entire career, playing slow down ball anytime the Panthers got a two TD lead, no matter how early in the game. Eventually, the team would come back, and/or the Panthers would lose, while Cam's stats could have been twice or 3X as much if Rivera would have just kept the pressure on. Eventually RR's bad coaching skills, time management caught up with him. So ironically, he needed everyone of those points he was giving up with his slowdown offense every time the Panthers got a lead.
  17. Agreed! I just thought that Ron Rivera was a horrible coach most of his career at Carolina, who Cam just made look good. The irony is: Rivera always played to slow the game down, anytime the Panthers had a 14 pt lead or more, even in first or 2nd quarter. It's almost like he was afraid of putting points on the board. When you combine this with his horrible game; situational, and clock management, it always seemed to comeback to haunt Cam and the Panthers, mind you his reduced stats; wins and national perception. SMH Good for Cam tonight. I only wished he had won, and the Patriots would have gone for a quick pass, and/or Edleman would have caught that TD throw earlier. But you can't win them all. Go Cam!
  18. You forget that, Ron Rivera had long reigned in Chud (about mid season) before he left. RR did this most likely cause he was scared. And from every game thereafter in Cam's career (even during his MVP season) Rivera always played slowdown ball anytime he had more than a 2 TD lead (even in the 1st or 2nd quarter). This greatly hindered Cam's stats; wins, and career, particularly with RR horrible game; situational and clock management.
  19. That's how you do it Ronnie. Wax that ass until there's 4min left in the 4th Qtr!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. Carson Palmer's exactly who we thought he was!!! And suck it Mike Wilbon, and the national press who questioned the Panthers 2nd half prowess!
  21. I bet right now, Arizona wishes the press didn't criticize the Panthers for taking their foot of the gas vs Seattle. Now they paying for it. Riverboat, going for two, when he has 40+ already!? LMAO!
  22. Carson Palmer's exactly who we thought he was (going to be). Give him a clear lane, and he hit's his receivers cleanly. However, any time he see's a pass rush coming (even when there not there yet) he makes errant throws. And being at home,just ramps up the defense in their zone coverage to feast off his errant throws under pressure.
  23. Don't know what the injury is with Davis. But now this Shaq Thompson pick can really pay dividends for maybe this game, and Superbowl, if the Panthers win (not being cocky).
  24. Don't be upset by that Newton interception Panther fans for these reasons: 1) It's the playoffs, and it happens against good teams. 2) You wouldn't want Newton on a 22 TD/1 INT streak going into the Superbowl (if the Panthers win). Let him get one if it doesn't cost the Panthers a game. 3) Now the Panthers can't try to sit on their lead when they get the ball back in 3rd Qtr, compared to if they were up 31-7. 4) The RB's couldn't run in that TD, so Cam had to do it himself. So Thank him for that one. 5) The Panthers have a 17 pt lead, and hope to score more real soon.
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