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  1. July 30th - 31st was Eid al-Adha Considering this thread title is Happy Eid (which is the equivalent of "Happy holiday/festival/celebration!!" as there is also Eid al-Fitr), there is nothing strange about it.
  2. Icege

    Corona Virus

    https://health.hawaii.gov/coronavirusdisease2019/what-you-should-know/current-situation-in-hawaii/ I mean, it's public info. Not sure why you're acting like it's being kept from you. Your turn! Mind telling me why NZ has a lower infection rate and less deaths than Cuba, Philippines, Haiti which are even further away (with the exception of the Philippines)? Those are small island nations as well.
  3. ProPublica is an award-winning, independent, non-profit newsroom that focuses on exposing abuses of power and betrayals of the public trust by government, business, and other institutions. This isn't "clickbait." This is really what happened. Don't let your dislike for the GJBC cloud that.
  4. Icege

    Corona Virus

    Is this where you imply that it is because NZ is an island nation while ignoring other island nations with higher COVID rates and also ignoring the fact that the US is across the entire Pacific Ocean rather than downstream like NZ is? Let me guess... we need to do like Sweden?
  5. Icege

    Corona Virus

    I don't think GIlligan's Island had a population of 4.886M while also having 3.8M tourists come through the year prior. I also don't think that 60% of the island's economy depends on imports/exports in international trade like NZ does. I do think, however, that it is hilarious that folks ignoring the NZ containment response are now trying to invalidate it since they know it destroys most of their rhetoric.
  6. For perspective: this was Teddy's first meaningful game since 2015 (a playoff game vs... the Seahawks! :o ) So... of course an offense that already had Brees averaging just 0.4yds more per throw is going to keep things underneath. But I mean, you know, do y'all.
  7. Doh, good catch. That would be Keith Kirkwood. Both played at Temple together for Rhule Edited OP to include the info.
  8. Offense QB: Teddy Bridgewater, Will Grier, PJ Walker (3) Teddy Bridgewater is your Panthers' QB for the next 2 - 3 seasons. The area of interest, however, will be the ongoing competition between Will Grier and PJ Walker. The only way that we can expect at least two of these QBs to be on the roster in two years is if Teddy is retained for the final year of his deal. Otherwise, Walker/Grier are playing to be the #2 or compete to be the #1 once Teddy is gone and someone else is brought in. The team has already gone out and gotten some familiar weapons for Walker, but they're also high on Grier. It'll be an interesting competition to say the least. RB : Christian McCaffrey, Reggie Bonnafon, Jordan Scarlett, Alex Armah (4) Christian McCaffrey is the best RB in football, so there's that. Bonnafon has sparked and Scarlett is largely a drafted unknown. Scarlett does fit that sledgehammer mold while Bonnafon is most cut like McCaffrey in regards to versatility, so I see these three being our RBs with Alex Armah coming in as the FB. The only other competition to Armah from what it looks is Giovanni Ricci, and I like Armah's versatility + experience to give him the edge there. WR: Robby Anderson, DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel, Keith Kirkwood, Pharaoh Cooper, Seth Roberts (6) The three starters are of course locks, but two others that I feel are locks due to their ability to contribute on special teams are Keith Kirkwood and Pharaoh Cooper. Kirkwood also played with Walker for Rhule at Temple. This leaves the final spot up between Omar Bayless (a rookie with a 4.6sec 40yd dash), Damion Jeanpiere (a practice squad member from last season), Seth Roberts (a 6yr veteran), and DeAndrew White (who was called up from the practice squad last year and had the first down conversion on the pass from Mike Palardy). Bayless I think is just outclassed here while Jeanpiere also doesn't have the experience the team needs, which leaves the decision to be between DeAndrew White and Seth Roberts. Both have similar measurables, but DeAndrew White has one more year of practice squad eligibility available. I think the team tries to sneak him away while putting Roberts on the main roster. TE: Ian Thomas, Chris Manhertz, Temarrick Hemingway (3) This position group is probably the thinnest on the roster. We know that Manhertz is a blocking TE that can sometimes play H-back (which Armah can also do). Thomas was coveted by Rhule in college. That leaves a battle between Giovanni Ricci (a TE/H-back in the mold of Armah/Manhertz), Colin Thompson (a former Temple player with 1yr pro exp), and Cam Sutton (a rookie out of Fresno State that has been clocked at running a 4.5sec 40yd dash). With there already being two possible H-backs on the roster, that leaves Ricci out. Hemingway had some flashes from what I could recall last year during the preseason, and is the most "veteran" between him, Thompson, and Sutton. OL: Russell Okung, Michael Schofield, Matt Paradis, John Miller, Taylor Moton, Greg Little, Dennis Daley, Tyler Larsen, Chris Reed (9) Okung and Schofield have experience playing next to one another, and the team likely hopes for Little and Daley to learn directly from both of them on how to be coached by their new position coach. Matt Paradis doesn't have any true competition to start at center currently, and John Miller is another veteran interior presence with Chris Reed as a potential heir to either guard position should Daley have to slot at RT. He'd only have to do that though if the Panthers can't pay their best offensive lineman, Taylor Moton, who is due for a payday. Defense DL: Kawann Short, Derrick Brown, Stephen Weatherly, Efe Obada, Yetur Gross-Matos, Zach Kerr, Bravvion Roy, Chris Smith (8) If any position needed a total retool after last season, it was the DL. Despite putting up sacks, they were repeatedly gouged by the run and failed to create turnovers. The team has lost contributors like Mario Addison, Dontari Poe, Gerald McCoy, Bruce Irvin, Vernon Butler, and Kyle Love. Enter Derrick Brown, Stephen Weatherly, Yetur Gross-Matos, Bravvion Roy, Zach Kerr, and Chris Smith. While these players are nowhere as accomplished as those that left, aside from the 3 drafted rookies, one is a solid contributor and the other two are also competing with the rightfully adored Efe Obada and the guys in the EDGE group. Like the rest of the defensive groups, I'm very interested to see how these guys develop. EDGE: Brian Burns, Marquise Haynes, Christian Miller (3) Burns is electric with tons of upside, and Haynes has flashed on occasion. Miller is also able to line up at the Sam LB position or on the edge. All three of these players provide position versatility that Phil Snow covets and while early on I considered looking at situations where Haynes was traded and/or Miller was cut, I'm more and more opening up to all three of them still being on the roster. LB: Shaq Thompson, Tahir Whitehead, Jermaine Carter, Andre Smith, Jordan Mack, David Reese (6) There was likely an expected overhaul here at LB with the sudden retirement of Luke Kuechly, but the team clearly trusts the defense in Shaq Thompson's hands and brought in Tahir Whitehead to give the defense experience in how to be coached by Rhule. Jermaine Carter and Andre Smith have been steady special teams contributors and have stepped in when needed admirably. While the team is also looking to move back to a 4-3, it'll likely be in nickel packages most of the team as has become the trend in the NFL. The flexibility of the players in the EDGE group also takes away the need for 7 LBs as we have seen in the past with 4-3 Panthers defenses. Jordan Mack and David Reese were very solid and productive at the college level while also having the size and speed to compete at the pro level. They can cut their teeth on special teams like Carter and Smith have while competing for additional playing time. DB: Tre Boston, Juston Burris, Eli Apple, Donte Jackson, Jeremy Chinn, Kenny Robinson, Troy Pride, Stantley Thomas-Oliver III, Corn Elder (9) Despite the departures of James Bradberry, Eric Reid, Ross Cockrell, and Javien Elliot, the DBs as a whole are looking pretty good. I use DB here instead of CB, S, FS, SS, etc because in Phil Snow's virtual presser he stressed that he calls them DBs. He expects them to line up anywhere in the backfield and be able to defend the pass as well assist in run defense. Tre Boston is seen as the leader of the group, and 2nd round pick Jeremy Chinn is going to get some time at the nickel position as well as safety. The team is very high on Juston Burris, is returning a starter in Donte Jackson, and just brought in former 1st round pick Eli Apple to start. This group is going to allow the other three DBs that the Panthers drafted recently to rotate in and develop, with a final spot being up for grabs between several other DBs. Corn Elder has starting experience and it could come between him and Cole Luke, but I'm partial to Corn as the better player. Special Teams (3) LS: JJ Jansen (1) This is a peace offering to Chase Blackburn. He's losing a lot of guys that he was developing, as well as some that were brought in specifically to give special teams some stability. Jansen has a year left on his contract, and has been a stalwart on the special teams squad for seasons upon seasons. His open roster spot the following season can go towards a practice squad member competing to be on the 53. K: Joey Slye (1) This was a tough one. Do we go with what we know, or do we look towards the future? The team is in a position where they don't have to wait and see if Gano's leg healed well following the femur fracture, but Joey Slye also didn't show the consistency you'd like to see from your kicker. Slye being on a one year deal will allow them to see if he's gotten over his yips while also getting out from under Gano's contract. P: Mike Palardy (1) I mean... is there any question/doubt here? Practice Squad RB: Rodney Smith (1) RB is a bit loaded despite it not being a logjam, and that's what allows all-purpose back Rodney Smith out of Minnesota to slip on to the practice squad. If the team happens to have one of its three primary RBs go down, expect Smith to get promoted from the practice squad sooner rather than later. WR: DeAndrew White (1) White has one more remaining year of practice squad eligibility. Between Damion Jeanpiere, Omar Bayless, and DeAndrew White, I believe that White is clearly the better player with higher upside. TE: Cam Sutton (1) TE group is rather thin, and I considered taking both Cam Sutton and Giovanni Ricci here but I just couldn't see the justification for a 3rd H-back on the roster when Alex Armah and Chris Manhertz both fulfill that role. Armah also has very limited experience at TE while also being a full fledged FB, so that versatility along with Brady's offense relying more on 3 WRs and less on 2 TEs means that Cam Sutton is the one that gets stashed. I know folks assume that Colin Thompson is the guy since he went to Temple, but you can't teach speed and Cam Sutton has that. OL: Mike Horton, Sam Tecklenburg, Frederick Mauigoa (3) The team looks like it's due for some turnover at the interior positions on the OL. If Dennis Daley has to start, the team will need a new swing lineman to be that 6th man for the OL. Sam Tecklenburg has experience all over the OL and Rhule believes enough in him to have brought him out of retirement. I can't help but believe that he expects him to be more than a camp body. Mike Horton's college career started on all cylinders before losing momentum, but he has 32 consecutive starts as a right guard. Mauigoa was in a spread offense at Washington State but showed solid promise and had 39 consecutive starts. All three of these players were 5-year college players as well. They've got a lot of quality starting experience in the college ranks and could develop into solid pros as depth pieces or potential starters. DL: Myles Adams (1) A heady DE that spent a majority of his college career at DT, Myles Adams fits that intelligent, hard-working character that Matt Rhule looks for. Not only that, but Adams was a player-elected team captain during his senior year and was known for his resilience, attention to detail in film study, and focus on technique. He can line up in multiple spots along the defensive front and could develop into a quality rotational piece for the line. LB: Sam Franklin, Chris Orr (2) Sam Franklin is not just earning a practice squad spot due to his Temple ties. He's earning a spot because he fits that mold of the hybrid LB/S type player that teams are beginning to covet. Though he doesn't have the athleticism that Isaiah Simmons or Jeremy Chinn has, he is an intelligent player with hustle. Chris Orr, while a bit undersized to play ILB in the pros, was the quarterback of the Wisconsin defense. The Panthers' new regime covets not only speed, versatility, and hard work, but intelligence as well. The team needs to restock the LB position, and with Tahir Whitehead on a one year deal there will be opportunities for the main roster. DB: Derrek Thomas (1) Thomas followed Rhule from Temple to Baylor when he took over, and then signed with Seattle after leaving college. He went into training camp with Pittsburgh as well, but was cut and spent the remainder of the season waiting on a team. He has all three years of practice squad eligibility and provides Rhule with familiarity for the DB group. There are several other players like Cole Luke and Quin Blanding that could push here, but I think Thomas ultimately gets the nod.
  9. The first page made me think this was the Tinderbox with all of the conservative dog whistles.
  10. You asking me if they should refuse CPI's money as if it's some kind of purity test while ignoring the rest of the data speaks volumes. Especially when we are discussing defunding the police and not private contracts. Try and keep up.
  11. Copy/pasting this here because I don't feel like typing it out again when it eventually gets deleted from the main board: Defunding the police means reallocating funds as needed. For example, police are clearly not equipped to handle mental health calls. More needs to be invested into the areas that handle those issues. Take for example the current Charleston county budget (https://www.charlestoncounty.org/departments/budget/files/FY19-Approved-Budget.pdf) This is one of the action items for 2019: Public Safety ~ In recent years, the United States has seen an alarming increase in school shootings. During budget deliberations, County Council took a positive step towards protecting the County’s students and teachers by increasing the number of School Resource Officers in each elementary school within the County’s law enforcement jurisdiction. The original budget presented to Council included two School Resource Officers, but the approved budget includes $1.1 million to provide a total of ten School Resource Officers. In addition to this being an important policy and financial decision for the County, it also represented a partnership between the Charleston County School District and the County where the School District allocated funding to offset a portion of the impact to the County’s budget Why in the fug aren't we taking that $110k per resource officer and using that to help supply classrooms instead of forcing teacher's to shoulder the financial burden? We don't need more school resource officers, we need more school supplies. This is where "defunding" should take place. Page 40 of that budget also shows where taxpayer money is going. The #1 expense? Transportation development at $80,825,043. #2? Sheriff's office at $78,296,386 or ~13.4% of the budget. In comparison too... Community Development ($1,645,644, 0.28%) Economic Development ($4,329,057, 0.74%) Elections/Voter Registration ($1,938,981, 0.33%) Emergency Management ($4,531,166, 0.78%) Emergency Medical Services ($17,255,537, 2.96%) Environmental Management ($39,146,962, 6.72%) Library ($17,401,586, 2.99%) Planning and Zoning ($2,283,600, 0.39%) Public Defender ($9,824,577, 1.69%) Public Works ($19,793,164, 3.40%) Safety & Risk Management ($7,908,147, 1.36%) State Agencies ($329,859, 0.06%) Technology Services ($20,218,028, 3.47%) Transit Agencies ($16,015,000, 2.75%) Trident Technical College ($11,256,030, 1.93%) Veterans Affairs ($399,468, 0.07%) Defunding the police in this scenario means to reallocate the excess resources going to the county sheriff to other areas of need that can supplement the role of law enforcement. For example, community and economic development can help bring people out of poverty. Better funded public defenders give those without the means to a private attorney better public representation. Public works projects also directly contribute to economic development.
  12. Defunding the police means reallocating funds as needed. For example, police are clearly not equipped to handle mental health calls. More needs to be invested into the areas that handle those issues. Take for example the current Charleston county budget (https://www.charlestoncounty.org/departments/budget/files/FY19-Approved-Budget.pdf) This is one of the action items for 2019: Public Safety ~ In recent years, the United States has seen an alarming increase in school shootings. During budget deliberations, County Council took a positive step towards protecting the County’s students and teachers by increasing the number of School Resource Officers in each elementary school within the County’s law enforcement jurisdiction. The original budget presented to Council included two School Resource Officers, but the approved budget includes $1.1 million to provide a total of ten School Resource Officers. In addition to this being an important policy and financial decision for the County, it also represented a partnership between the Charleston County School District and the County where the School District allocated funding to offset a portion of the impact to the County’s budget Why in the fug aren't we taking that $110k per resource officer and using that to help supply classrooms instead of forcing teacher's to shoulder the financial burden? We don't need more school resource officers, we need more school supplies. This is where "defunding" should take place. Page 40 of that budget also shows where taxpayer money is going. The #1 expense? Transportation development at $80,825,043. #2? Sheriff's office at $78,296,386. ~13.4% of the county budget is going to the sheriff's office. In comparison too... Community Development ($1,645,644, 0.28%) Economic Development ($4,329,057, 0.74%) Elections/Voter Registration ($1,938,981, 0.33%) Emergency Management ($4,531,166, 0.78%) Emergency Medical Services ($17,255,537, 2.96%) Environmental Management ($39,146,962, 6.72%) Library ($17,401,586, 2.99%) Planning and Zoning ($2,283,600, 0.39%) Public Defender ($9,824,577, 1.69%) Public Works ($19,793,164, 3.40%) Safety & Risk Management ($7,908,147, 1.36%) State Agencies ($329,859, 0.06%) Technology Services ($20,218,028, 3.47%) Transit Agencies ($16,015,000, 2.75%) Trident Technical College ($11,256,030, 1.93%) Veterans Affairs ($399,468, 0.07%) Defunding the police in this scenario means to reallocate the excess resources going to the county sheriff to other areas of need that can supplement the role of law enforcement. For example, community and economic development can help bring people out of poverty. Better funded public defenders give those without the means to a private attorney better public representation. Public works projects also directly contribute to economic development. The OP was implying that defunding & dismantling is the desire when it is defunding that is the desire. Kind of like folks that lump protesters and rioters/looters in the same conversation.
  13. To all supplies-relates questions: Yes, as needed. It is so odd that there is all of this concern with making sure government enforcers are adequately supplied, yet I don't hear any of this outrage when schools are defunded. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article150397682.html
  14. Yup, that's what abolishing the police is. Now go see what defunding the police means.
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