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Panthers Let Senior Executive Scout Don Gregory Go

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Wow, bad sign for Hurney and Riverboat imo. 

 

Change is a coming. 

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Not surprising. His position change was as much a demotion as anything. Heck, he hasn't even been listed on the team site for a long time.

I don't know why they soured on Gregory but it was pretty obvious that they did.

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Why would you need any talent scouts with geniuses like Hurney and Rivera calling the shots?

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6 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Wow, bad sign for Hurney and Riverboat imo. 

 

Change is a coming. 

Not sure they're related to this at all. Rivera has at least another 2 years I would think. Hurney this year and if moves from this offseason don't seem to pan out this year then he's probably gone but otherwise he might stick around a bit. One thing to remember is that the Steelers brass raved to Tepper about Hurney and Rivera. Tepper may very well want his own guys running the show but I think that'll only happen if Hurney faceplants this go around (which is certainly possible, but I will say his moves this offseason have been pretty solid and better than any offseason of his in his first stint. Cutting Stew, not breaking the bank for Star/Norwell, etc. are all the moves of a changed man...).

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So it’s his fault that this FO has made some very questionable moves or is he the sacrifice?

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Who even works in the front office these days.

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44 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not surprising. His position change was as much a demotion as anything. Heck, he hasn't even been listed on the team site for a long time.

I don't know why they soured on Gregory but it was pretty obvious that they did.

Could be 4 years of shitty drafts?

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49 minutes ago, SOJA said:

Wow, bad sign for Hurney and Riverboat imo. 

Change is a coming. 

It's possible this is related to Tepper, but my first instinct is to think that it's not.

Granted, the timing makes it seem curious, but my belief is that it's unconnected.

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Here's a general timeline...

Gregory was hired by Marty Hurney to be Director of College Scouting in 2006.  Prior to that he was a national scout for the Chiefs. Dave Gettleman promoted Gregory to Director of Player Personnel, which would have put him over both college and pro scouting.

May of last year, in the wake of Brandon Beane taking the Bills GM job, Gregory was reassigned to a "Senior National Scout" position. From what I've read, this was a glorified scout / consultant position.  It'd be considered a demotion unless it was voluntary, i.e. a "step back" move like what Gettleman had done with the Giants. 

Jeff Morrow took over the college scouting department and Mark Koncz took over as Director of Player Personnel after having spent years running the Pro Personnel department. Don't know whether Morrow let anybody go but he did hire at least one new scout in June of last year. 

This past April's draft would be the first one on Morrow's watch.  Obviously, it'll be a long while before we know how it turned out.  Gregory had shepherded the Panthers scouting process every previous season since his hire.

Gettleman was fired shortly after the shuffle, and a little after that so was Mark Koncz.  Panthers scout Matt Allen, coincidentally (or not) Jerry Richardson's grandson, was given Koncz' job.  There was speculation that Hurney was letting Koncz go to sink a potential rival, and additional speclation of nepotism with Allen's promostion.

There were more shifts and changes in the front office structure around that same time last year, with the upshot being that guys like Morrow, Allen and others will have been in their current jobs for only one year when David Tepper takes over.

In January, Gregory was interviewed for the GM position.  It was regarded as a Rooney Rule interview, though the Panthers went over and above on that front, interviewing three additional - and highly qualified - minority candidates before doing exactly what everyone expected them to do and handing the job to Marty Hurney.

Just after the draft, longtime Panthers equipment manager Jackie Miles "retired", then proceeded to take the same job with the Giants just a month later.

And now, a little over a year since his step back / demotion / whatever it was and less than six months after interviewing for the GM position, Gregory is being let go.  Wonder if he'll try to latch on with the Bills, Giants or Cardinals.

Also of note, it was reported to be around last March when Jerry Richardson directed a racial epithet at a Panthers scout (whom I believe to have been Khary Darlington).  Whether or not this has anything to do with Gregory's reassignment is unknown, but I'd have to believe that Gregory was at least aware of it.  

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