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OldNorthPowell

Should have tanked

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Crazy trade rumor I saw...

Pelicans get:  MKG, Frank, Monk, Bridges (or Willy) and 2 first rounders

Hornets get:  Anthony Davis

I would do it hoping Willy goes not Bridges but probably do it anyway.

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The Hornets haven't had a single season where they shouldn't have tanked honestly. I mean really, when their best year of the past decade has resulted in maybe hopes of the 2nd round of the playoffs...in the Eastern Conference? 

They're average at best, with a ceiling of average. That's about the worst position to be in in the NBA, especially in a market that won't ever attract a big FA. It sucks, but the only way the Hornets win in the current system is to get lucky once in the lottery, and then draft well for a couple of years in a row. 

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8 hours ago, Shocker said:

Crazy trade rumor I saw...

Pelicans get:  MKG, Frank, Monk, Bridges (or Willy) and 2 first rounders

Hornets get:  Anthony Davis

I would do it hoping Willy goes not Bridges but probably do it anyway.

Would love to have Davis, especially since stern hosed us on him to begin with

buts that’s too much to give up

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If we could only throw in 1 first rounded - it's a no brainer.. but tbh - I'd still do it for 2 firsts:

PG - Kemba - Parker - Graham
SG - Lamb - Bacon
SF - Batum - ???
PF - AD - Marvin
C - Biz - Willy (Zeller)

We could then flip a big (willy or Zeller) for a 3-and-D small forward to come off the bench..

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Yeah would absolutely like to keep Bridges and let them have Willy...especially if we give up 2 firsts

PG - Kemba - Parker - Graham
SG - Lamb - Bacon
SF - Batum - Bridges
PF - AD - Marvin
C - Biz - Zeller

Then we'd need to go get a few roster fillers

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On 1/15/2019 at 2:54 PM, Thelt said:

There is no way we trade for Anthony Davis.  Other teams can offer more and we would have a hard time retaining him even if we pulled it off. 

As far as tanking I have mixed feelings.  We did not do as badly at it last time as many think we did.  We were in great shape after the 2016 season.  We had an emerging star in Kemba and loads of cap space.  Where it went off the rails was when we gave big money contracts to guys like Batum and Marvin.  Never give huge contracts to guys coming off career years, in the final year of their last deal.  We could have let Batum walk and kept Lee for half the money. 

At this point I think the best course is to keep Kemba and ride out the bad contracts.  We have to draft better though no matter what.

kemba is working on a career year in the final yr of his contract

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I saw this trade for Kevin Love.   Hornets trade Frank, Monk, Biz and a 2019 first rounder.  Thoughts?  Love does have a large contract so there is that.

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2 hours ago, Shocker said:

I saw this trade for Kevin Love.   Hornets trade Frank, Monk, Biz and a 2019 first rounder.  Thoughts?  Love does have a large contract so there is that.

Would be a stupid, stupid, stupid deal. Love is washed up and on a big contract.

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Just now, OldNorthPowell said:

Would be a stupid, stupid, stupid deal. Love is washed up and on a big contract.

I tend to agree...that contract could become a real albatross for them.

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Sorry, I'm fully against tanking. Philadelphia hasn't done squat. Playoff appearances? Whoopidy doo. Milwaukee didn't tank, Houston didn't tank, Golden State didn't tank, you don't have to tank to be good. Bad organizations are bad organizations and with MJ at the helm, we're a bad organization. At some point, we have to help ourselves. 

Don't be so sure about Cleveland getting lucky, they have one of the worst owners in the league in Dan Gilbert. I would not be surprised to see Zion and the other highly touted players pull a Steve Francis. If I were their agents, I would encourage it.

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56 minutes ago, SuperBowlBound said:

Sorry, I'm fully against tanking. Philadelphia hasn't done squat. Playoff appearances? Whoopidy doo. Milwaukee didn't tank, Houston didn't tank, Golden State didn't tank, you don't have to tank to be good. Bad organizations are bad organizations and with MJ at the helm, we're a bad organization. At some point, we have to help ourselves. 

Don't be so sure about Cleveland getting lucky, they have one of the worst owners in the league in Dan Gilbert. I would not be surprised to see Zion and the other highly touted players pull a Steve Francis. If I were their agents, I would encourage it.

29 wins got them Curry

26 wins got them notta

36 wins got them klay

 

Drafted Barnes 7th overall

Green in the 2nd round

 

They were barely a 30 win team for 4 years in a row. 

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On 1/14/2019 at 11:32 PM, Shocker said:

Crazy trade rumor I saw...

Pelicans get:  MKG, Frank, Monk, Bridges (or Willy) and 2 first rounders

Hornets get:  Anthony Davis

I would do it hoping Willy goes not Bridges but probably do it anyway.

Yeah that is crazy....as crazy as saying Neil Armstrong never set foot on the moon. 

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On 1/22/2019 at 8:42 AM, carpanfan96 said:

29 wins got them Curry

26 wins got them notta

36 wins got them klay

 

Drafted Barnes 7th overall

Green in the 2nd round

 

They were barely a 30 win team for 4 years in a row. 

Problem is the Bobcats/Hornets owner can't pick a beauty queen out of a lineup of nothing but beauty queens.

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Just now, GeorgeHanson said:

Problem is the Bobcats/Hornets owner can't pick a beauty queen out of a lineup of nothing but beauty queens.

There is the real problem, til Jordan becomes less hands on. Tanking properly or winning isn't gonna happen. Jordan needs to let mitch work his magic and stay away from decision making. Then the team can move on and try to get it right. 

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6 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

There is the real problem, til Jordan becomes less hands on. Tanking properly or winning isn't gonna happen. Jordan needs to let mitch work his magic and stay away from decision making. Then the team can move on and try to get it right. 

Agree 100%.

He should move to Florida and call into team headquarters 3 times per year.  Anything more than that would be too much involvement on his part....never been a less qualified owner in a major team sport. 

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