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What might also hurt Carmichael is that people don't know how much is him and how much is Payton.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Also now hearing that our old friend Brentson Buckner is being let go by the Buccaneers.

That's interesting because Buckner was Arians' defensive line coach when he was coaching the Cardinals. Guess he doesn't want him on his new staff.

Loved Buckner when he was with Carolina thought he was a great leader and locker room guy and wished we would have kept him one more year.

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3 minutes ago, PurityControl said:

Loved Buckner when he was with Carolina thought he was a great leader and locker room guy and wished we would have kept him one more year.

There's hints the Panthers aren't exactly his favorite organization these days.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

What might also hurt Carmichael is that people don't know how much is him and how much is Payton.

I can see that, but with teams dying to get someone from a great offensive system, how has he not, Lafleur didn’t call plays in LA, and the Titans offense wasn’t good. And Kingsbury is borderline unexplainable. Your theory is why I wanted to get them both. Campbell as HC and Carmichel to OC and get a shot without Peyton. Pipe dream. 

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2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

I can see that, but with teams dying to get someone from a great offensive system, how has he not, Lafleur didn’t call plays in LA, and the Titans offense wasn’t good. And Kingsbury is borderline unexplainable. Your theory is why I wanted to get them both. Campbell as HC and Carmichel to OC and get a shot without Peyton. Pipe dream. 

I think Kingsbury is best explained by the fact that the Cardinals are a terrible organization.

More than one analyst has pointed to the fact that a lot of teams are trying to find the next Sean McVay when the Colts, for example, had success with someone that wasn't considered one of the "hotter" candidates (except by some folks like me).

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think Kingsbury is best explained by the fact that the Cardinals are a terrible organization.

More than one analyst has pointed to the fact that a lot of teams are trying to find the next Sean McVay when the Colts, for example, had success with someone that wasn't considered one of the "hotter" candidates (except by some folks like me).

    Trying to find the next “anything” usually doesn’t work out to well. 

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Someone suggested it'll be fun having a "Baker" and a "Kitchens" working together in Cleveland.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Someone suggested it'll be fun having a "Baker" and a "Kitchens" working together in Cleveland.

He was just never the type of player you saw becoming a coach. But things change. 

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7 minutes ago, Toomers said:

He was just never the type of player you saw becoming a coach. But things change. 

I honestly didn't remember him as a player.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I honestly didn't remember him as a player.

He had his moments at Bama. Mostly inconsistent, but had an arm. Saved his best games for Auburn. Certainly not a “cerebral” type QB. 

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Why, exactly? :thinking:

All the new hires this year  IMO seemed rushed and questionable.

 

*Edit* Except for Arians I'll say ( I can understand that one) 

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Yeah, I'd have to say that so far most of the new coaching hires have given me a "wait ,what" kind of feeling.

It's not that I think there aren't strong candidates. I'm just scratching my head at why these teams are picking some of the guys they're picking :thinking:

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