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Eazy-E

Playing our youth is a win win for everyone.

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The starting line up for the rest of the season should look something like Kemba-Malik-Miles-Frank-Cody. All of these guys should be getting around 30 minutes a game. Graham and Bacon should be getting some second unit minutes. Guys like Parker, Marvin, and Batum should not be getting major minutes anymore.

At this point it would be hard to be much worse than we already are. Best case is our young guys step up and we miraculously make the playoffs. Worst case is we lose out and increase our lottery odds. It would be tanking without actually trying to tank and our young guys would get some much needed experience and maybe actually develop for once.

Try to re-sign Kemba and possibly Frank. Let Lamb walk, decline Parker's option, and do what ever you can to try and trade Biz, Batum. If we can't, buy them out. Pray Marv and MKg decline their player options but if they don't you can still try and trade them as they will be decent expiring contracts.

Roll with the same starting line up next season along with a new first rounder and maybe another if we are able to trade anyone.

We still need to try to win but we need to be doing it with our young draft picks not washed up vets on bloated contracts.

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I suspect this will happen if we lose a few more games.  I do not think they are ready to give up on the playoffs yet.  Giving up too soon might have a big negative impact on our chances at retaining Kemba. 

Not making any moves at the trade deadline might come back to bite us. 

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I'm with you here.  I definitely want to see what the young guys can do just so we know for sure, but I honestly don't think it's much.   

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22 minutes ago, rhyslloyd said:

I'm with you here.  I definitely want to see what the young guys can do just so we know for sure, but I honestly don't think it's much.   

That is my point. They literally can’t be any worse. If we had played the starting lineup I mentioned all season, I bet our win total difference would only be around +/- 5 games. 

I mean our highest paid player who plays the second most minutes on the team doesn’t even average 10 points. His defensive impact and thing like that are not enough to offset his offensive shortcomings. So on the analytical side of things, if a player takes on the same role, plays worse defense but scores more points they even each other out. Basically we still suck. So why not play the young player with potential?

This goes back to not understanding why we dont just trade out first round picks every year. We draft these players and let them rot on the bench and never develop them and just consider them busts. It’s not like we’re a 50+ win team and our expensive vet players are actually any good. People are already calling Monk a bust. I can almost guarantee you if we drafted Mitchell he would be in the exact same position as Monk here. Instead he is thriving in Utah. Do you really think Clifford would have taken minutes from Batum and given them to a rookie last year?

This is why after we re-signed Batum I wanted to trade the pick we used on Monk to trade for Lou Williams because it was almost a guarantee who ever we drafted wouldn’t play their rookie year. So for a team always talking about trying to make the playoffs it made absolutely no sense.

 

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30 minutes ago, Thelt said:

I suspect this will happen if we lose a few more games.  I do not think they are ready to give up on the playoffs yet.  Giving up too soon might have a big negative impact on our chances at retaining Kemba. 

Not making any moves at the trade deadline might come back to bite us. 

This isn’t giving up on the playoffs. It is our last hope at actually trying to make them. We already know we have a very slim chance at making it with guys like Batum and Marvin starting, but rolling with the young guys is a complete unknown. Regardless If we win out or lose every game, the outcome is a good thing for the future of this team. We either get a good draft pick or make the playoffs, all while our youth gets some much needed experience.

 

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13 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

That is my point. They literally can’t be any worse. If we had played the starting lineup I mentioned all season, I bet our win total difference would only be around +/- 5 games. 

I mean our highest paid player who plays the second most minutes on the team doesn’t even average 10 points. His defensive impact and thing like that are not enough to offset his offensive shortcomings. So on the analytical side of things, if a player takes on the same role, plays worse defense but scores more points they even each other out. Basically we still suck. So why not play the young player with potential?

This goes back to not understanding why we dont just trade out first round picks every year. We draft these players and let them rot on the bench and never develop them and just consider them busts. It’s not like we’re a 50+ win team and our expensive vet players are actually any good. People are already calling Monk a bust. I can almost guarantee you if we drafted Mitchell he would be in the exact same position as Monk here. Instead he is thriving in Utah. Do you really think Clifford would have taken minutes from Batum and given them to a rookie last year?

This is why after we re-signed Batum I wanted to trade the pick we used on Monk to trade for Lou Williams because it was almost a guarantee who ever we drafted wouldn’t play their rookie year. So for a team always talking about trying to make the playoffs it made absolutely no sense.

 

For sure.  Batum's deal is the real albatross here. 

I'll admit I'm one of the ones who hasn't been impressed at all by Monk (granted, in a small sample because he doesn't play), and Bridges might as well start throwing the ball at the rim one handed.

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5 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

This isn’t giving up on the playoffs. It is our last hope at actually trying to make them. We already know we have a very slim chance at making it with guys like Batum and Marvin starting, but rolling with the young guys is a complete unknown. Regardless If we win out or lose every game, the outcome is a good thing for the future of this team. We either get a good draft pick or make the playoffs, all while our youth gets some much needed experience.

 

we are not making the playoffs...that ship has sailed

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2 minutes ago, rhyslloyd said:

For sure.  Batum's deal is the real albatross here. 

I'll admit I'm one of the ones who hasn't been impressed at all by Monk (granted, in a small sample because he doesn't play), and Bridges might as well start throwing the ball at the rim one handed.

And the sad thing is the guys who are making 5 times as much as them with 10 years of experience aren’t really doing any better but they still get to play.

Why aren’t they getting benched for playing like poo every night?

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3 minutes ago, bull123 said:

we are not making the playoffs...that ship has sailed

Good so stop playing Batum 35 minutes a night

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1 hour ago, bull123 said:

we are not making the playoffs...that ship has sailed

I think you are right but I suspect the team is still holding out hope.  In their minds they have the best chance to win and make the playoffs by continuing to play Batum, Marvin, etc.  Give it another five games and they might change their minds and play the youth. 

I am not sure how much that helps to be honest though.  Monk got a lot of minutes at the end of last season after we threw in the towel.  It did not make him better this year.  I am not sure we should not have traded him at the deadline as a sweetener to get Gasol.  We probably make the playoffs if we do that.  Monk's trade value is going to be very little very soon.

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2 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

 They literally can’t be any worse.

Record wise, probably not. But it's probably a difference between losing games by 4 pts versus losing them by 16.

Right now they're only 1 game out of the playoffs. Barring an extended losing streak, I don't see them throwing in the towel anytime soon.

 

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