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Wow, the house overrode Cooper's veto.

https://www.wral.com/house-overrides-cooper-s-budget-veto/18626626/

 

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In a surprise vote, the House overrode Gov. Roy Cooper’s veto of the state budget in an early morning session Wednesday.

The veto has to be overridden by the Senate for the budget to go into effect.

Senate Republicans also don’t have a veto-proof majority, but leaders said they’re confident they have the votes.

 

Surprise!  

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shocking, republicans held a vote with only half the members there, democrats saying they were told a vote wouldn't take place

GOP acting like scum again? weird

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31 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:

shocking, republicans held a vote with only half the members there, democrats saying they were told a vote wouldn't take place

GOP acting like scum again? weird

It's posted.  The House calendar was posted yesterday.  Democrats need to read and/or show up to work.  

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11 minutes ago, g5jamz said:

It's posted.  The House calendar was posted yesterday.  Democrats need to read and/or show up to work.  

 

I'm sure that's it and it's not yet another desperate power grab from the party of old racist white men on the brink of dying out.

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1 minute ago, Cary Kollins said:

 

I'm sure that's it and it's not yet another desperate power grab from the party of old racist white men on the brink of dying out.

Is that the excuse Easley and democrats used to get a tax on the poor passed (lottery)?  In that scenario, POS democrats waited until a dude went on his honeymoon.  

Here, let me remind you of it.

https://www.wral.com/news/local/story/119625/

One was sick and the other was on their honeymoon AND Perdue suspended the rules to allow the vote to occur.  Don't give me the poor me democrat crap.  

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12 minutes ago, g5jamz said:

Is that the excuse Easley and democrats used to get a tax on the poor passed (lottery)?  In that scenario, POS democrats waited until a dude went on his honeymoon.  

Here, let me remind you of it.

https://www.wral.com/news/local/story/119625/

One was sick and the other was on their honeymoon AND Perdue suspended the rules to allow the vote to occur.  Don't give me the poor me democrat crap.  

 

lol like you give a poo about a "tax on the poor"

Those poor pearl clutching GOPers who don't want gambling but laugh their way to tax cuts as poor people die because they don't have access to healthcare.

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It's not a tax on the poor?

Nothing to do with gambling.  I'm all for a casino here or there.  I'm against the lottery in every convenience store and watching from the gas pump these poor idiots throwing money away every pay day.  Keep building strawmen.  

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4 minutes ago, g5jamz said:

It's not a tax on the poor?

Nothing to do with gambling.  I'm all for a casino here or there.  I'm against the lottery in every convenience store and watching from the gas pump these poor idiots throwing money away every pay day.  Keep building strawmen.  

So are you saying that the government should put laws in place to help manage the choices of it's citizenry?  Or that people should be denied their freedom to do whatever they want to with their money?

Remember that NC was losing money to the SC lottery (as possibly VA?), and wanted to get in on the action.  I'd think taxes on things like personal care items or hair care would be more of a tax on the poor rather than a freedom to throw your money away in the lottery.

My bigger issue is how lottery funds are used, which is not well.

As far as the tricky Pubs, it shows again they haven't learned from history.  Instead of being "better" than the democrats who passed the lottery, they instead intentionally mislead the opposition party to override a veto.  It continues to show they lack the moral authority they think they are entitled to.  They continue to represent their financial interests instead of their electorate.  A state budget should have been passed.  Cooper was elected because the people didn't want MORE rubber stamping. 

Adults should come together and work for a common solution.  All are guilty here, but today it's the Pubs who look like the grasping party of the out of touch.

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I don't like it, but at least the budget passed one house.  There are no negotiations going on.  On purpose by Cooper.  

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38 minutes ago, g5jamz said:

I don't like it, but at least the budget passed one house.  There are no negotiations going on.  On purpose by Cooper.  

fug you and your party you *****

 

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1 hour ago, g5jamz said:

It's not a tax on the poor?

Nothing to do with gambling.  I'm all for a casino here or there.  I'm against the lottery in every convenience store and watching from the gas pump these poor idiots throwing money away every pay day.  Keep building strawmen.  

It's their money. You don't give twoshits about the poor. If you did you'd care more about why people with so little make desperate attempts to pull themselves out of poverty by wasting money on lottery tickets, because working two and three jobs doesn't allow them to keep their heads above water. 

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11 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

It's their money. You don't give twoshits about the poor. If you did you'd care more about why people with so little make desperate attempts to pull themselves out of poverty by wasting money on lottery tickets, because working two and three jobs doesn't allow them to keep their heads above water. 

He voted for a guy who was good at bankrupting businesses.  Apparently he has no problem with people "throwing away" money as long as they are white rich males. 

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G5 showing us the outrage over a lottery but fails to mention the fact the state GOP just killed Medicaid expansion again, thereby taking healthcare from tens of thousands of people. Fug you. 

This state has the 3rd highest death rate in the nation to those without healthcare.

https://pulse.ncpolicywatch.org/2019/08/20/nc-has-nations-third-highest-total-of-excessive-deaths-from-failure-to-expand-medicaid/

http://www.peacemakeronline.com/national-report-350-died-in-n-c-due-to-no-medicaid-expansion/

A new report may or may not capture state Republican legislative leaders’ attention in their almost two-month budget standoff with Gov. Roy Cooper, but it definitely strengthens Cooper’s argument for the expansion of Medicaid in North Carolina.

According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), 350 people in North Carolina died “…because of the lack of affordable health care coverage,” and had Medicaid – government sponsored health care for low-income residents – been expanded, they may not have.

The NBER report adds that North Carolina is third in the nation per the number of deaths associated with the lack of Medicaid Expansion. Florida is second with 700, and Texas is first with just over 700.

“[T]his data provides new and compelling evidence that the decision to expand Medicaid has a profound affect on the life expectancy of adults living in the coverage gap,” writes Alexandra Sirota, director of the nonprofit N.C. Budget and Tax Center. By expanding Medicaid for the needy, states are able to improve health outcomes, provide better management of health conditions, and improve the quality of life for those who otherwise would lack coverage.

“By linking death records and data on program participation and health outcomes across all states, the authors of this new report estimate the impact of Medicaid expansion on the mortality rate of near-elderly adults,” Sirota maintains. “Their findings point to a 9.3 percent decline in annual mortality for this age group in those states with Medicaid expansion. The primary reason for the improvement in life expectancy is disease management while under the care of Medicaid.”

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