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Top 2021 QB Prospects (1/4 Mark Update)

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Updated rankings from what I've seen so far at the 1/4 mark.....

1. Trevor Lawrence, Clemson - He's been fantastic all year to pack up everything he already has on tape.

2. Justin Fields, Ohio State - His first game is this weekend and has a big test looming against Penn State the following week.  There's a huge drop off after him.

3. Zach Wilson, BYU - Had a very good year in 2018, then an injury riddled one in 2019 and now playing some exceptional ball again this year.  Buzz started surrounding him a couple weeks ago so I took a look and came away more impressed by him than any other QB in the draft not named Lawrence or Fields.  Here's come clips:

4. Trey Lance, North Dakota State - There is no tape against quality competition to truly feel confident about Lance.  He's got traits/talent to develop and if you have the patience and ability to bring those plus traits out of him there is a big reward potentially waiting for you.  He is the boom/bust prospect of the position.

5. Jamie Newman, Wake/Georgia - He's sitting out and focusing on draft prep which is a shame because a season against SEC competition could have done wonders for him.  He has still shown to be calm in the pocket with a good arm and athleticism to make something out of nothing but he also got bailed out by his WRs a lot at Wake.

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Teddy Bridgewater's short contract length means the Panthers will probably look to upgrade the QB position in the future.  With 2 years left on his contract after the 2020 season and a potential out after 2021 it would be wise to get an insurance policy in the system or at the very least, an upgrade at QB2.  I'm going to post this early to see how this changes after next year plays out.  So, here are the QBs currently being talked about as 1st rounders:

Trevor Lawrence, Clemson: Top QB prospect since his dismantling of Alabama in the Natty.  Hard not to like what he brings to the table either.  Talent around him makes his evaluation harder to feel truly comfortable with.  Here's a couple tape breakdowns from last year...

Justin Fields, Ohio State:  Fields currently looks like the only one who can dislodge Lawrence from the top spot.  Another prospect that is hard not to like but also another prospect that is a little harder to feel truly comfortable with your projection because of the scheme/talent around him.  Here's some info on him...

Trey Lance, North Dakota State:  There will be questions about competition (first game against Oregon will be important) and he does have 2 years of eligibility left so he could easily go back, especially with the 2 QBs ahead of him.  Though, I've also seen him rated above Fields by a couple analysts already too because they are such similar players and he is faster and has a stronger arm.

Jamie Newman, Georgia:  I watch a good bit of him last year thinking he might come out but came away more impressed by his receivers (have another thread on him on this board).  Still he has 1st round buzz because he is a duel threat who can push the ball down field, can buy time, has good size/arm and doesn't freak out with pressure.  He's got another year to get more reps against a step up in competition to improve his stock.

Brock Purdy, Iowa State:  He has athleticism and a high football IQ that gives him a shot at Round 1 but he has poor arm strength and his consistency will need to improve.  Could see teams taking a pause because of his height as well.

 

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I have seen Brock Purdy from Iowa State and Tanner Morgan from Minnesota tossed around as possible first rounders next year as well.

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I was going to start a thread in the main forum about this 2021 QB class.  I'm wondering if the could be an ultra-rare 5 QBs or the rarest of rare 6 QBs taken in the 1st round?

One draft site has 9 QBs slated (by rank) to be taken in the first 3 rounds.  That is NUTS!  We know there is always someone that has a bust-out final season that rockets up the charts and another one or two that impress in the offseason workouts which drives up their stock.

The 2020 QB class was overall weak.  In the preseason (like now) it was the Herbert and Tua show.  That was about it.  As we know Burrow broke-out and Love (who was initially a 3rd round prospect) crept into the back of round 1.  So in a seemingly weak QB class, four QBs went in round 1, could 5 or 6 go in this next draft where the QB class is loaded?

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Some other names that have popped up recently are Kyle Trask (Florida), KJ Costello (Miss St), Sam Ehlinger (Texas), Tanner Morgan (Minnesota), Kellen Mond (Texas A&M).

Costello should be significantly cooled off by now. It's Florida's WR and TE that should excite people more than Trask. No chance to see Morgan yet this season but he's had some really good skill position talent to make his job easy too. Some team is going to be really disappointed when drafting Sam. Most draft pundits are not impressed by Mond but I haven't watched him personally.

I'll add BYU's Zach Wilson. Saw his name start popping up a couple weeks ago and I came away more impressed by him than any QB in this draft not named Lawrence or Fields.

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1A) Lawrence

1B) Fields

3) Lance

4) Newman

5) Trask

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On 10/25/2020 at 9:09 AM, Varking said:

1A) Lawrence

1B) Fields

3) Lance

4) Newman

5) Trask

I know you spend some time looking into these things, so I'm curious why you are high on Trask? I personally can't see it.

On 10/26/2020 at 8:19 AM, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Purdy blows, just like Sam Ehlinger. So, nix him off the list too. Not a fan at all. 

Purdy is better then Ehlinger from what I've seen, but yeah I'm also not a fan.

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38 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

I know you spend some time looking into these things, so I'm curious why you are high on Trask? I personally can't see it.

Purdy is better then Ehlinger from what I've seen, but yeah I'm also not a fan.

He looked like poo vs Okie State the other day. I fully expect Okie State to get exposed against OU. Maybe even Texas. 

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2 hours ago, Untouchable said:

I know you spend some time looking into these things, so I'm curious why you are high on Trask? I personally can't see it.

Purdy is better then Ehlinger from what I've seen, but yeah I'm also not a fan.

I’m sort of with you on Trask. I’m admittedly a Gator homer. Kyle Trask is currently following the footsteps of Joe Burrow just a year sooner. Where Burrow went and had an average year as a 4th year Junior and then dominated as a 5th year Senior at LSU, Trask is doing the same in his 4th year as Burrow in his 5th. It’s not just the yards, it’s the TD to INT ratio I love. He doesn’t run like Burrow and neither has a cannon for an arm but they can both make all the throws and they read the field well. 
 

Some analysts have Trask higher but I still need to see it for longer. To me the only three QBs that should go round 1 are the top 3 but teams always reach. Newman and Trask are the guys somebody comes back in the first round for. If Trask finishes the year with 35 TDs and 5 INTs in a shortened season against all SEC opponents it’s going to be hard to deny him a first or second round grade. Great size, good arm, the only knock on his game is that he hasn’t shown himself to be very mobile. 

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40 minutes ago, Varking said:

I’m sort of with you on Trask. I’m admittedly a Gator homer. Kyle Trask is currently following the footsteps of Joe Burrow just a year sooner. Where Burrow went and had an average year as a 4th year Junior and then dominated as a 5th year Senior at LSU, Trask is doing the same in his 4th year as Burrow in his 5th. It’s not just the yards, it’s the TD to INT ratio I love. He doesn’t run like Burrow and neither has a cannon for an arm but they can both make all the throws and they read the field well. 
 

Some analysts have Trask higher but I still need to see it for longer. To me the only three QBs that should go round 1 are the top 3 but teams always reach. Newman and Trask are the guys somebody comes back in the first round for. If Trask finishes the year with 35 TDs and 5 INTs in a shortened season against all SEC opponents it’s going to be hard to deny him a first or second round grade. Great size, good arm, the only knock on his game is that he hasn’t shown himself to be very mobile. 

Thanks for sharing. What I consistently see with Trask is floaters into very open windows or to mismatches just going up and snatching the ball. I give more of the credit to the scheme or talent at other positions not stuff I can't see translating well to the NFL for Trask. That's why I just can't get on the hype train.

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43 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Thanks for sharing. What I consistently see with Trask is floaters into very open windows or to mismatches just going up and snatching the ball. I give more of the credit to the scheme or talent at other positions not stuff I can't see translating well to the NFL for Trask. That's why I just can't get on the hype train.

I’ve seen what you see as well. Part of why the offense has worked in Kyle Pitts. 9 quarters of football, almost 300 yards and 7 TDs at TE. Everyone hyped him up this year and he is out producing the hype. Hope he is healthy enough to play the next few games. 

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2 hours ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

If we're not getting one in 2021, I want this kid. 6'1 and can flick the wrist like Mahomes. Love his arm talent. 

Yeah I already have an eye on him for the future.  RS Freshman so he could be a couple years out still.

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1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

Yeah I already have an eye on him for the future.  RS Freshman so he could be a couple years out still.

I think he goes in 2022. Especially in Riley’s offense. 

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At this point I would rank them 

1 Lawrence

2 Fields 

3 Wilson

4 Lance

I'd take any of those guys at our pick

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