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2 hours ago, Mother Grabber said:

the taints intentionally injured opposing quarterbacks, and Brees supported it. fug him, and fug the taints.

this is a fact.

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12 hours ago, Snake said:

And Ryan Fitzpatrick scored a 48. Your point is extremely flawed when it comes to football IQ. Winston is a terrible QB and will be a terrible QB because what's wrong with him isn't physical or mechanical. 

What is wrong with Winston, in your opinion?

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16 hours ago, raz said:

it was a joke

abraham lincoln 4:20

Oh..... For a minute i thought i was on the Falcon forums by mistake.   I have to avoid the Falcon forums to get better sleep at night. 

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On 11/16/2020 at 3:17 PM, Davidson Deac II said:

They are expecting him back in three weeks.  

Then they are employing voodoo magic for sure. Multiple broken ribs and a collapsed lung... it would be criminal to put him back in so early.

Here's hoping the guy recovers fully from this. He might be a villain to us on the field, but I sure can't cheer over another man's injuries.

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40 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Then they are employing voodoo magic for sure. Multiple broken ribs and a collapsed lung... it would be criminal to put him back in so early.

Here's hoping the guy recovers fully from this. He might be a villain to us on the field, but I sure can't cheer over another man's injuries.

Definitely, I only mentioned because it seemed like a crazy thing.  And Brees is older, so it will take longer to heal anyway.  

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18 hours ago, Snake said:

And Ryan Fitzpatrick scored a 48. Your point is extremely flawed when it comes to football IQ. Winston is a terrible QB and will be a terrible QB because what's wrong with him isn't physical or mechanical. 

This is the same egregious assumptions people made about Cam Newton. I get what you’re saying but it could be that Winston perfectly understands what’s going on on the field, he just can’t deliver. Maybe he panics when the first few reads aren’t open, or his peripheral vision just isn’t good enough. It doesn’t mean he’s a moron. He’s played the game for over a decade , some of these things probably soak in eventually.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to be an effective QB. Fitzpatrick is the smartest QB in the game and has never ever been in consideration as the best.

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On 11/17/2020 at 10:59 AM, kungfoodude said:

What is wrong with Winston, in your opinion?

Decision making. In a vacuum he's got it all but his processing of information is absolutely terrible. It's kinda like Teddy Check down they just don't have the processing to be good or elite. Winston will be coached to minimize his decision making but it will eventually happen. 

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On 11/17/2020 at 4:50 PM, OneBadCat said:

This is the same egregious assumptions people made about Cam Newton. I get what you’re saying but it could be that Winston perfectly understands what’s going on on the field, he just can’t deliver. Maybe he panics when the first few reads aren’t open, or his peripheral vision just isn’t good enough. It doesn’t mean he’s a moron. He’s played the game for over a decade , some of these things probably soak in eventually.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to be an effective QB. Fitzpatrick is the smartest QB in the game and has never ever been in consideration as the best.

Bro that's exactly what I said. You can be a brilliant person and still not have a good football IQ. His IQ is the problem. 

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On 11/17/2020 at 4:50 PM, OneBadCat said:

This is the same egregious assumptions people made about Cam Newton. I get what you’re saying but it could be that Winston perfectly understands what’s going on on the field, he just can’t deliver. Maybe he panics when the first few reads aren’t open, or his peripheral vision just isn’t good enough. It doesn’t mean he’s a moron. He’s played the game for over a decade , some of these things probably soak in eventually.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to be an effective QB. Fitzpatrick is the smartest QB in the game and has never ever been in consideration as the best.

Bro that's exactly what I said. You can be a brilliant person and still not have a good football IQ. His IQ is the problem. 

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On 11/16/2020 at 2:15 PM, Harbingers said:

Winston's issues last night did not appear to be just because he played for TB. Perhaps it was because they were putting hill in every 3rd play though.

Same reason Bridgewater came in against the Rams in Week 2 last year and stunk up the joint, because he was operating a gameplan that was tailored to Brees. Week 3 against the Seahawks and Bridgewater was running a gameplan tailored to his strengths and looked eons better.

The gameplan this week against the Falcons will be tailored to whomever the starting QB is, whether it’s Winston or Hill.

On 11/17/2020 at 1:48 AM, Mother Grabber said:

the taints intentionally injured opposing quarterbacks, and Brees supported it. fug him, and fug the taints.

I bet you believe everything Fox News or CNN tells you too, don’t you? 

On 11/17/2020 at 4:25 AM, raz said:

this is a fact.

No, it’s not. Actually far from it considering the injury report data (which is mandated by the league to be accurate) directly disproves that fallacy.

American Enterprise Institute: The Saints ain’t sinners

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5 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

Same reason Bridgewater came in against the Rams in Week 2 last year and stunk up the joint, because he was operating a gameplan that was tailored to Brees. Week 3 against the Seahawks and Bridgewater was running a gameplan tailored to his strengths and looked eons better.

 

There is no gameplan tailored to Brees. its just running Hill in every third play.

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4 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

 

No, it’s not. Actually far from it considering the injury report data (which is mandated by the league to be accurate) directly disproves that fallacy.

American Enterprise Institute: The Saints ain’t sinners

 is this y'alls super pac dedicated to keeping people from knowing about your teams assistance in covering up and PR campaigns surrounding organized child rape?  and your poor wittle qb's donation of large sums of money to organizations that get peoples heads and hands cut off for being gay in africa?     i get its your favorite team, but y'all are beyond creepy.  way beyond creepy as an organization. if you can't be aware of this because you don't like it, and have it be your favorite team -  that's on you.   

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5 hours ago, Harbingers said:

There is no gameplan tailored to Brees. its just running Hill in every third play.

I agree, but part of the gameplan for that specific game is designed for Hill to come in and take those snaps at QB. If Winston ends up being under center while Brees is on the shelf, like last year, Hill won’t be getting nearly as many touches as he would normally with Brees was still in the lineup.

When Brees was out last year, Hill averaged only 2.8 touches/game and played on only 49 offensive snaps (9.8 snaps/game) with 14 touches (1 touch every 3.5 snaps).

So far this year he’s averaging 5.2 touches/game while playing 149 offensive snaps (16.6 snaps/game) with 47 touches (1 touch every 3.2 snaps). So while he still touches the ball with the same ratio regarding his snaps, it won’t surprise me to see his offensive snap count drop significantly again.

Hill’s special teams snaps also take a huge dip when Brees is out. Last year with Brees starting, Hill averaged 23.3 snaps/game on ST; for the 5 games that Bridgewater started, he averaged only 6.2 snaps/game on ST.

But like it’s been pointed out in this thread, I think Winston would look better with a full week of 1st team reps and a gameplan designed to his strengths. We’ll have to see how it goes though, will definitely be interesting.

40 minutes ago, raz said:

 is this y'alls super pac dedicated to keeping people from knowing about your teams assistance in covering up and PR campaigns surrounding organized child rape?  and your poor wittle qb's donation of large sums of money to organizations that get peoples heads and hands cut off for being gay in africa?     i get its your favorite team, but y'all are beyond creepy.  way beyond creepy as an organization. if you can't be aware of this because you don't like it, and have it be your favorite team -  that's on you.   

As I asked the other dense individual you’re in agreement with, you really do believe everything the idiot box tells you without researching anything on your own, don’t you? It’s a pity you don’t know how to think for yourself and can only regurgitate this verbal diarrhea that’s been pumped into your empty head on command.

But I guess since you obviously can’t talk football like some of the better posters here, you have to find something “football-adjacent” to bring up where you can feel like you’re part of the group. More power to you, guy. 

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39 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

I agree, but part of the gameplan for that specific game is designed for Hill to come in and take those snaps at QB. If Winston ends up being under center while Brees is on the shelf, like last year, Hill won’t be getting nearly as many touches as he would normally with Brees was still in the lineup.

When Brees was out last year, Hill averaged only 2.8 touches/game and played on only 49 offensive snaps (9.8 snaps/game) with 14 touches (1 touch every 3.5 snaps).

So far this year he’s averaging 5.2 touches/game while playing 149 offensive snaps (16.6 snaps/game) with 47 touches (1 touch every 3.2 snaps). So while he still touches the ball with the same ratio regarding his snaps, it won’t surprise me to see his offensive snap count drop significantly again.

Hill’s special teams snaps also take a huge dip when Brees is out. Last year with Brees starting, Hill averaged 23.3 snaps/game on ST; for the 5 games that Bridgewater started, he averaged only 6.2 snaps/game on ST.

But like it’s been pointed out in this thread, I think Winston would look better with a full week of 1st team reps and a gameplan designed to his strengths. We’ll have to see how it goes though, will definitely be interesting.

As I asked the other dense individual you’re in agreement with, you really do believe everything the idiot box tells you without researching anything on your own, don’t you? It’s a pity you don’t know how to think for yourself and can only regurgitate this verbal diarrhea that’s been pumped into your empty head on command.

But I guess since you obviously can’t talk football like some of the better posters here, you have to find something “football-adjacent” to bring up where you can feel like you’re part of the group. More power to you, guy. 

says the guy who's favorite team advises the church how to deal with the PR crisis of organized child rape, and who's qb has donated large sums of $ to helping kill gays in africa for a book he likes.  and a coach who has threatened... and who's team has paid to injure and ....

but payton does have some pretty sweet make-up.      that's your team bro.  that's on you.   they're disgusting from the top to the bottom.

you stay willfully ignorant all you want.   that's you bro.  you do that

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