top dawg

Yep.

Our trade was worse.

Now that's the actual thing that I have regret about, even though as a fan I could do nothing; If Cam had just been afforded better protection, there's no telling how many fortunes would have been changed.

When you're in franchise QB purgatory like we are, like the Bills were pre-Allen, drafting a franchise QB can take years. The swing-miss rate is real. There's nothing wrong with continuing to build your team into a turnkey contender and plucking a franchise QB from someone else. Hell, the Broncos did it, and the Bucs did it last season. But I do agree in a perfect world. We should've taken the swing last year, but our HC thinks he's smart.

"Rebuild" is a matter of definition though. I don't believe in a scorched earth policy, but I don't believe that's what's been going on as much as now we're headed towards an involuntary and uncontrolled drain spiral.

You know it's not that simple. If it were, then all teams would have franchise QBs.

Yeah, I agree that franchise QB trumps everything. Of course you try to identify one if they exist, but if they don't you have to improve other areas of the team.

Whatever. If you or anyone can't see that until you've won it all, you've done nothing, I can't help you. I think that many if not most of the Bills or any team members would tell you the same. I also think you're straight up lying saying that I'm trying to discredit them. If anything, you and others are just using their situation to pile on the current failure of our situation which is simply beating a dead horse that has been so bludgeoned that it's unrecognizable at this point. Like I said, if they win it all, I'll congratulate them like I will any team, but the Panthers current state has less to do with their success than our current FO's bad decisions.

Of course we need to build our team (although I don't necessarily think there's a cookie cutter approach). Unless you're the Steelers or Pats, there are always ebbs and flows. Our emotions as fans go up and down, so we're going to be sad sometimes, but as for me, I try to keep it all in perspective most of the time. I don't stay sad. I certainly don't hate. But what I do believe is that we're in flux, we're in the middle of a transition. U like some, I don't think we are bereft of talent. I think that coaching and talent evaluation, in particular along the O-line, is damned near hideous. But with all that, I think that our defense isn't that far away from being something special, our offense has talent, and that by fixing the O-line and getting a franchise QB, we will be right in the thick of things like we used to be--like the Bills are now. It may take a few years, but it can happen. Even with that, if we don't finish the deal, then we're still coming up short.

I have been on this board a very long time, and as most know, your characterization is ludicrous.

I ain't diminishing anything. You guys need to keep things in perspective. Once they win it all, I'll give them all the props in the world. Until then, they're just a playoff team (just like we have been in the past).

Agholor was their most skilled receiver. Jones was a rookie QB who wasn't making anyone better. Current Super Bowl champion, Tom Brady is no longer there. Keep things in perspective.

Stop acting like beating a Brady-less Patriots team is an accomplishment. They had a rookie QB with no skill players of note.

That don't mean sh¡t. But y'all can act like it does if it makes you feel better. Until you've won the dance, you're just like everyone else. Sure, it's nice to go to the playoffs and the Super Bowl, but until you've won, you're still trying to figure it out like everyone else.

I wouldn't be mad at Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner, I'm not gonna lie.

The Bills ain't done sh¡t yet. However, they appear to be the better part. But, we were going to be on a different trajectory anyway with so much change here. Maybe we'll be there by 2026. It just takes a head coach that knows what he's doing, and, perhaps even more problematic, a legit franchise QB.

The Colts problem is that they pushed their chips in on Wentz. They still have a pretty talented squad. "Poorly ran" is subjective.

Good reflection. I keep forgetting where Fitt came from.

Actually Sauce Gardner looks like the truth. He arguably had better tape than Horn, and that's saying something. Never allowed a coverage TD in three seasons, and locked down some of the nation's best

Yeah, OK.

I have yet to look at any QBs for your information. I wasn't talking to any draft, much less this one. I was speaking to the fact that teams don't wait until the last minute to start evaluating. We weren't drafting a QB last year because we didn't have the juice or the will to make it happen, IDGAF what Fitterer or anyone else may have said, hinted--whatever. It wasn't going to happen, and, as it turns out, I'm glad that we weren't able to because I suspect they would have screwed the pooch.

QB ain't one of them.

No I don't, but I also don't think that our GM is as clueless about the top prospects as is perhaps being suggested. No chance of that either.

Coaches are just beginning to enter the evaluation process, not the teams. The scouts have been evaluating these prospects directly for months, and indirectly for even years. As for this draft, depending upon where we trade down, I doubt we'll be able to get Ewonu outside the 10, but it could happen. Being that this is considered a deep class, we should be able to get a quality lineman though (all the way into day two it seems).

You're absolutely right, and I don't know what to think about it. I'm probably going to have to sit down and reflect about the seeming disconnect. Perhaps people are just right about Rhule's "success" in college being overblown.