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Easy to think on the surface, but then you have to ask yourself why the police didn't take Hardy to jail if Holder looked that bad. The easy answer is that she didn't. In the state of North Carolina, they will take a person to jail for domestic violence. Both Hardy and Holder could have easily been arrested. I know a couple that has been arrested for less.

It was 296 yards, and those two scores were exciting. And to be fair, he only sucks at the primary job that he had last year.

Funny. You know that comment caught my eye. No wrath though. All I can say is to each his own. Not really concerned with Nicks. He made his bed by not working things out last year in Charlotte. Brown doesn't have to worry about Nicks either, but he had better be worried about keeping his roster spot against the likes of Jarrett Boykin and Stephen Hill one of which who has displayed more practical skills and production during games, and the other with pedestrian numbers but much better measurables. I am giving Brown the benefit of the doubt that he is ahead of the likes of Mike Brown, Marcus Lucas, Deandre Presley and (Cam favorite) Brenton Bersin, but maybe not by much (especially Berse). Personally, I want a couple of more young play makers who are more polished, complete, and with more upside than Nicks, Brown and any of them, but we will how that's looking around this time next week.

I know that you're trying to be funny, but nope. I've always believed that you can talk things out 90 something percent of the time. Children are just little people who need direction. Corporal punishment is largely unnecessary, if necessary at all. I am more Dr. Spock than Adrian Peterson.

Whatever the fug that is

No, he might want to shove his tongue up Holder's taint like you do.

And yes, I am an excellent parent. So much so that others have entrusted their sons to me over the years. I would have loved to get my hands on Hardy when he was coming up.

If you could just extend that same grace and/or spirit to Hardy that you obviously do unconditionally for Holder, then we wouldn't have anything to argue about.

Sipe did all he could. You can't blame the Browns' inability to get over the hump on him. Sipe and Kosar would definitely be in the top half of the league today.

Well I certainly hope they're better daughters than Nicole Holder.

I agree about KB, but where I apparently disagree with many of you is that we need to upgrade the position as a whole. We need to raise our floor. Let me say it again: We need to raise our floor...And if we raise our ceiling at the same time, I certainly won't cry about it. Moreover, by raising our floor, that inherently means that we are adding better quality depth. Perhaps we will have a better wide receiving corps If we do this, one with noticeably better upside and looks more akin to an NFL corps than a glorified CFL corps. Now granted, maybe someone rises from the PS. I hope so. But, even still, if we don't draft a couple of potential play makers in this year's draft at wide receiver---at least one early, and one in the mid rounds---I will be disappointed. It's the same old thing with us, and has been for arguably the lion's share of the last decade, we are essentially one play maker at receiver away from disaster. You may think that "disaster" is hyperbole, so I will replace it with "mediocrity". If Cotchery or Brown or Boykin are our failsafes in the event that KB and/or a presumed WR1/2 gets hurt for any appreciable amount of time, then we won't get into the dance. We may be on the outside looking in over the shoulder of the Star-esque bouncer, but we we will not get in. We need to raise our floor.

How dare you bring up issues that impute that poor, innocent girl's testimony. Don't you realize that facts that speak to Nicole Holder's psychopathic behavior are not welcome on the Huddle? Hardy beat the poo out of that angel with her own halo, and then scratched her from head to toe with his pitchfork and horns for the pure hell of it.

Thanks. Actually I have two. Here is an Easter pic of them with a couple of my newphews. I dont upload attachments too much, so sorry if it's kind of small, but that's probably all the Huddle needs to see. Well, I guess it's not so small when you click it. I could have uploaded bikini pics, but this place ain't ready for that.

Are you suggesting that Cam doesn't need more offensive weapons? If so, history and a lot of people that know football say otherwise. More weapons on defense and offense are not mutually exclusive. In fact, anyone should desire both. Balance across the board is the bigger picture.

I just don't see how anyone who has watched any cut-ups can prefer Dorset over Agholor. I just don't see it, from a route running standpoint, a hands standpoint, a blocking standpoint, or even from a special teams standpoint, but you have a right to your opinion.

Sure, context doesn't mean a thing. It's the same difference, right? Anyway...for argument's sake let me admit that I could have worded things differently. Nail me to the cross for using a "poor choice of words"! But you know what I find more telling is how you and others sat back and didn't say a thing when I was attacked personally, being that you are so righteous and all. I have been on this board for years, and people generally know what I stand for, but yet and still didn't say a word. That's more telling to me than anything. Now as far as some tweet, I don't know why you keep referencing that. Even before I received a tweet, I had the same position. Moreover, you are taking the whole thing with Jeremy out of context (which seems to be a favorite means of manipulation and misinformation for some of you). I am not going to totally revisit that, but suffice it to say that anyone in their right mind wouldn't have bet that Hardy would be back, and like i said then, that wasnt even the real story. Whether Hardy was coming back was not the point, the point was more about upsetting people unnecessarily. But even that was not specifically what Jeremy and I got into a little tiff over. He thought that I had insulted him which I apologized for, but I also thought that he had insulted me. It wasn't really about Greg Hardy. Get your facts straight.

I already explained that if Rice were still top tier that he would absolutely be on an NFL roster, and you are being naive and absolutely wrong if you don't believe that. As for this thread and what I've said, I have more than enough support and understanding. The day I begin thinking like Batman and support his stupidity by proxy, and become a self-righteous, hypocrite whose only sense and semblance of fairness shows a deep disrespect for the law, equality and fairness, then I'd be worried.

Damn, when you block someone it doesn't translate to the app. Anyway, there are some good prospects there, though Agholor is conspicuously missing. I guess he is too low to rise to the first and too high to fall in the second.

I guess that you missed the story here where J-Rich went into the war room and took Randy Moss's card from the draft board and threw it on the ground...

It's hard, man. Some of us believe in grace, second chances and redemption depending upon the circumstances. I don't know that it is right to discount the severity of the offense, and the history of the perpetrator. I think that you must look at things on a case by case basis. Zero tolerance may appear good in theory and on paper, as long as everyone knows the rules beforehand, but there are always going to be situations where it seems like common sense should prevail.

I didn't say he should have "Ray Riced" Nicole Holder, I said that he may have been better off if he had (from an NFL penalty standpoint, which is what anyone with any sense of reading comprehension should know that we are talking about). Anyway, for Rice to get two games and Hardy to get 10 games from the NFL, after reviewing all of the legalities of each situation is out of line, and that shouldn't be. That was the whole point I was making. So continue to take it out of context and try and assassinate my character all you like, I know what I said, and I know what has been said. Perhaps others need to step away from the keyboard, look themselves in the mirror and take an ethical accounting of their own value system. Sure Hardy "embarrassed" the organization as you call it. The Panthers did suffer from a PR standpoint, though arguably very little in comparison to what we suffered on the field because of Hardy's absence while Hardy was getting handsomely paid. Now, to add injury to insult, we must suffer even more, arguably more because of Goodell than Hardy, and lose our comp pick as things stand today. This is the true travesty of the situation: The Panthers obviously suffer the most. And some of you seemingly don't give a poo about it, making it more about punishing Hardy under nebulous circumstances than getting it right from a legal perspective, much less a moral one (which is still up for debate whether you like it or not).

There is honest heat, and then there is trying to sucker punch someone below the belt. Batman should be banned for starting his personal insult bullshit, and that's the bottom line.

And, getting back to you, Scot, you act like you didn't read what I said the first time. Personally I think that you can restrain most women without beating the crap out of them, but some men believe in hitting if they are hit, whether it be by a woman or a man. The problem with this case is if there was enough of evidence of him "smacking" her around, then I would think that the police would have taken him to jail. In this state, they can take you to jail anytime that the police are called and they see evidence of domestic violence. Moreover, but no less important is the fact that you have two drunk people. One has been on drugs before, has lied to the police before, and couldn't even get her own story straight, so why in the hell am I going to take her at her word that she got beaten? And then, even after all that, she doesn't even show up in court to help prosecute the alleged perpetrator who does not have any history of domestic violence, and who has said that he was trying to restrain her when she became belligerent. Where is the history of domestic violence? Where is the history of any kind of violence at all? Where is all of this criminal stuff that Hardy did as a collegian? High school? Who had the history of drug and alcohol abuse? Some of you just want to act like it's so cut and dried when it is absolutely not. But, to each his own. Like I said, that's the society that we live in.

In the spirit of pot, I just blocked the motherfuger. Thanks.