MasterAwesome

Yeah and would be incredible value for a 4th round QB. But the bar for him fetching major picks is probably a good bit higher than "better than what the Panthers have fielded in quite a while" lol.

Meh, I think his ceiling is probably Andy Dalton.

Devin Jones was the CB we signed from UNC Pembroke two weeks ago. Duke Dawson we signed three weeks ago, and he played at Florida. Easy mix-up lol.

I mean, same lol I just watched the highlights and looked up the box score. But when a player records the lone interception for your team, his name tends to stick out. For me at least.

I'm guessing you didn't watch our preseason game.

Interesting, I didn't even realize Norwell and Turner are reunited at LG and RG in Washington. I guess Ron is feeling nostalgic and trying to get the gang back together again lol. I have a feeling we might see Vernon Butler signed in Washington at some point.

If you can throw in matching Fatt Fhule t-shirts, then gosh darn it I’M IN!

Yeah and I doubt Rhule is like “STFU James, yeah you’ve been coaching o-line for 20 years but I’M Matt motherfkin Rhule and I AM ALL-KNOWING” which is basically the scenario you and others paint when you throw out the word “micromanager” twenty thousand times to suggest Rhule is unilaterally making the lineup decisions. Otherwise you accept the reality, like most people, that Rhule uses Campen’s input to determine the o-line. It’s a joint decision and it’s VERY unlikely that there’s real dispute between the two as far as the basics like who deserves to start, who should be playing which position, etc.

Are you suggesting most teams do start late-round rookies?

Beta Ron Rivera would draft Jonathan Taylor. Alpha Riverboat Ron would take CMC. Do with that what you will.

Steve Wilks was a head coach back in 2019 and is now a position coach on a not-highly-regarded coaching staff, and I think most people hold him in high regard.

Losing his starting elite Center might contribute to that. Brady is one of those QBs whose success largely stems from the ability to step up into a clean pocket.

"Dumbass" is not a very analytical word.

Is it possible we're overrating Bozeman? I keep hearing in here about how good of a C he is/was with Baltimore, but he ultimately signed a pretty underwhelming 1-year $2.8 million contract which is not anywhere close to market value for a good or even average Center.

But if people want to make the argument that Corral sucked in Week 1 entirely because of our coaching staff, then you'd have to assume that Howell would have also sucked with the same coaching staff taking the same approach. So being frustrated we didn't take Howell isn't really logically consistent unless you're only arguing about the draft capital we would have saved. That's why I'm surprised @mrcompletely11 pied this post cause that seems to be contrary to what he has been saying about coaching being 100% of the reason behind the difference in rookie QB performances in Preseason Week 1.

I think another thing that is overlooked is how much DJ has been held back not only by QBs, but by OCs. Brady in particular was absolutely clueless on how to operate in the red zone. I'm expecting a big boost to DJ's TD numbers with the transition to a more experienced OC like McAdoo.

It's weird, it's pretty much the same thing that happened the year before with Marty Hurney. He got fired before the season was over, citing "philosophical differences". But I don't remember people up in arms over Hurney getting unfairly scapegoated lol.

Teddy was showing resistance and pushback in season how? Do you have any examples? I really think you're misremembering the Teddy situation. How would you characterize Rhule's willingness to throw others (and the team) under the bus to advance his own career interests, if not "sinister"?

Are you referring to Teddy's criticisms of our lack of red zone offense drills in practice? Cause that came a month after we traded him to the Broncos. I think you're misremembering the Teddy situation - he wasn't critical of the coaching staff leading up to his trading, it was more the coaching staff who clearly started to sour on Teddy and distance themselves from him in their language leading up to the trade. I'd argue that Rhule firing Brady was also him admitting a mistake and moving on, but I know you'll argue that Rhule was scapegoating Brady. Even though I think you agree that firing Brady was ultimately the right move and that Brady was not ready to be an OC. Any example I give you though, I think you are going to discount due to your speculation of some kind of sinister motive behind everything.

Except Rhule did admit his mistake and move on from Teddy last year...? You seem to correctly identify the similarities in the Teddy situation last year vs. the Darnold situation this year except your conclusion seems to be that the exact opposite outcome will occur. Ironically, I would use your exact same premises to argue why Rhule will move on from Darnold this year. Rhule's actions so far suggest, if anything, that he's a "cut ties quickly and move on" type coach who will keep taking shots over and over again until he finds a franchise QB. That leads to frustration if he keeps swinging and missing, but it's the smart play in the long run.

Why does this read like an SAT prompt lol.

Oh relax lol it was a satirical post that was tbh only slightly hyperbolic, inspired by my very own muse @frankw who I can only assume you two have on your ignore list if you think he isn't the aggressor in every interaction with a Huddler who says something benign in the mold of what Jimmy said above. Like hoping Darnold could become a serviceable backup if he has a strong o-line or about hoping Rhule learns from his mistakes and becomes a half-way decent coach. Or simply correcting an inaccurate claim about Rhule, like how you correct people who say Rhule doesn't play rookies (which I commend you for and doesn't make you a "Rhule lover" contrary to what these people think). Those are the types of comments that are met with pretty crass remarks about slurping balls and bootlicking and "here comes X's delusional fan club!!". Regardless, if "blind hope" pisses you off ("you" in the general, broader sense) then I think you need to do a little introspection? I might roll my eyes at blind hope...but piss me off? I have no idea what rational reason there is to be pissed off by someone who is blindly hopeful about their favorite football team being successful. There's an endearing childlike quality about it. Like someone naive who hasn't yet become jaded by the depressing reality. I think it's almost admirable in a way.

My guess is Guy 1 is a random Panthers' fan who casually watches the games every year who probably quietly uttered something like "I'm excited about our team this year" and Guy 2 is a Huddler from the other side of the stadium who somehow heard him and SPRINTED across the entire field to spit in his face and blast him for being a bootlicking POS who gargles the FO's nutsack.

The GOAT CJ Saunders. NFL comp: Wes Welker, Danny Amendola, Julian Edelman, Cole Beasley, Hunter Renfrow.

The prophecy has come full circle.