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  1. Nothing so far suggests we're planning on getting in a bidding war with another team for Baker so pretty sure we can just shut that conjecture down. Cleveland: Please take Baker! We'll pay most of his contract! PLEASE! Carolina: Nah, you gotta pay at least 90% of it or don't even waste our time. Seattle: We might be interested in Baker. Carolina: Holy s*%t! Here's 3 1st round picks and a $100 million extension!
  2. All this talk about how much the Browns are willing to pay is meaningless unless we know the draft compensation that is being discussed. Browns might say they're willing to pay $10 million if we trade them a 3rd round pick. That's a lot different than just considering the cost of taking on the remaining $8-9 million of salary.
  3. This seems like a pretty nonsensical take unless you have some data supporting it. In what world is the coach the one wanting to draft a long snapper? The rationale for drafting a long snapper is to cut costs at a position that is not valued. That's definitely a big picture GM type move. Doesn't even make sense that a coach would micromanage a long snapper decision but if so, would almost certainly prefer the solid reliable vet. There's no benefit for a coach to take a worse unproven player. Coaches reluctantly accept moves that make their team worse in the short term; they don't pound the table demanding them.
  4. Whoever Horn is locked up against will have 1 catch for 8 yards
  5. If your goal is winning a super bowl, it's extremely hard to fathom an avenue where the Panthers get there by trading the farm for Watson. Too many holes to patch up. How do you suppose we accomplish that with no high draft picks and no cap space (since Watson will eat it all up)? So for me the answer is easy: Corral and Icky. Even if the chances aren't great, they're greater than the zero that comes with Watson.
  6. I'm baffled by this obsession with getting a veteran qb to mentor Corral. That's what the coaches are for. Did Herbert rise to stardom because of the incredible tutelage of Tyrod Taylor? Who's responsible for the rise of Josh Allen? Nathan Peterman or Matt Barkley? Or hell, was Cam Newton getting tips on how to be a dominant dual threat qb with a cannon arm from the similarly talented Derek Anderson? QBs are expensive especially if you are signing one to compete for a starting job. There's no evidence that they make enough of a difference to warrant that commitment. That money is better reserved towards signing the best playmakers and solidifying the line around Corral for the foreseeable future. That's how you give him the best chance of success. Oh and making sure he has a competent OC and QB coach.
  7. Brady getting head coaching interviews was for one reason: teams were obsessed with trying to uncover the next Sean McVay, i.e. undiscovered young offensive mastermind. There was no buzz around Brady being a serious contender for any of those jobs after his interviews and once his body of work was actually evaluated, he couldn't even sniff another OC position. Brady could become a good OC some day, maybe. But he'll need a ton more experience before I'd feel comfortable handing him the keys to any offense. At the end of the day, his claim to fame is one year as a passing game coordinator for a team with Joe Burrow and two wide receivers who just had the most historic rookie seasons for a wide receiver in NFL history in back to back seasons. Suggests to me that Brady owes them more for his success than the other way around.
  8. Someone else posted this the other day. While it's nice to see any metric where the Panthers grade first, this one is really flawed unfortunately. In this system, you'd get rated way more highly for drafting a 4th round prospect in the 6th round than drafting a presumed top 5 pick in the 2nd round. A better system would look at the difference in values on a trade chart (like Chase Stuart) comparing where a player was projected or ranked vs actually drafted. The Panthers would still look pretty good, just not #1
  9. I think we're seeing a general shift in front offices' pholosophies. Right or not, there's a big push to prioritize a transcendent star qb above all else. The idea of a solid starter/game manager headlining a complete team has been devalued. Look no further than San Francisco's trade of 3 1sts for the opportunity to draft Trey Lance, Cleveland throwing historic guaranteed money and a bajillion premium picks to get Watson, or Denver giving up a bunch of picks including a top 10 of their own that could've gone towards a qb, to take Russell Wilson. When it boils down to it, most overwhelmingly felt like the chance one of this year's qb class making the leap to stardom was quite low. And if that's the case, why invest a premium pick? Wide receivers are going for $25 million per year and the hit rate for a wr in rounds 1-2 of at least turning into a decent starter is far greater than a qb. Doesnt make much sense to sacrifice a premium draft pick to roll the dice on a qb prospect when the consensus seems to be Baker Mayfield, who can likely be had for peanuts right now, might be their realistic ceiling. Meanwhile in the 3rd or later, where any draft pick is 50/50 at best to become a meaningful starter, the 5-10% chance that rookie qb prospect might play to a high level suddenly becomes a reasonable gamble.
  10. On face value, the team trading up twice, including using a future day 2 pick, doesn't quite scream Fitterer, who has been better known for trading back and amassing picks.
  11. I'm definitely not opposed to rolling the dice on Willis as long as the cost is reasonable. Something like our 4th and Robby Anderson to a wr desperate team to get back into the latter half of the 2nd could make sense for both teams.
  12. The last time the Panthers took a qb in the 2nd round who had a 1st round grade: Jimmy Clausen.
  13. Probably best to acknowledge we have no idea how long these qbs will last. Pretty sure you'd have laughed if someone said Malik Willis would be available in the middle of the 2nd. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Howell is there at our original 4th round pick. People have clearly way overvalued this qb class relatively to NFL front offices.
  14. At the same time, after drafting Joe Thomas, they spent 3 1st round picks on Qbs over the next 7 years. Those picks: Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden and Johnny Manziel. So really we'll probably turn ourselves into the old Browns either way.
  15. Fair points. The way I see it, we have two huge needs: LT and QB. This draft class is notable for having memorably elite LT prospects while the QB class is amongst the weakest of the past several years. It's one thing if you have a top 5 grade on a LT vs a mid-1st on a QB. But most mocks have either Neal or Ekwonu there at 6, whom many thought either could go #1 before the Jags resigned Robinson, whereas arguably no one in the QB class would have a solid 1st round grade in a normal year. Just seems like it makes sense to go with the safe pick and figure out qb another way. I also don't really trust the staff to figure who is the diamond in the rough in this qb class after their assessment of Darnold. Hopefully we get a top pick in 2023 but if not, plenty of teams have shown this year in particular there are other ways to find a qb (Indy, Seattle, Cleveland, etc)
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