fieryprophet

When you consider all the re-worked deals or trades it definitely more common than you think, missing games in holdouts is essentially the very last resort but a lot of drama gets stirred up regardless. Or was I imagining the Parsons/McLaurin/Hendrickson/Heyward/etc turmoil from just this last season?

Something that doesn't get discussed enough in these hypotheticals is that locking up a young guy early doesn't mean you can keep him for that rate. Not saying Coker would do this but it's pretty common for players to complain about their deals and holdout when they over-perform even if the team invested in them early, because players only have so much leverage through an entire career and money you don't earn now isn't going to magically appear down the line.

Bryce's contract has zero influence on Coker, period. If you think otherwise than you are just revealing your ignorance on how all of this works behind the scenes; QB contracts are basically a different tier that can also be utilized to reallocate resources when needed via restructures (see Brees and Saints.) The ERFA status simply gives the team a "declare your interest in keeping this player" due date, that is all. The numbers are irrelevant for any long-term plans, they are just a placeholder until both sides agree to a new contract if so desired.

He had 5 fumbles vs Pittsburgh and was fortunate his defense dominated the Steelers.

What do they classify as RPO? I've seen that classified anywhere between "the QB sorta faked a handoff from shotgun" as being RPO all the way to "there's a mesh point and the QB is carrying the RB upfield and receivers are actually running routes." We run a lot of the former, not so much the latter (and I'd like to see more of it.)

Single route plays happen all the time, hate to burst your bubble. What do you think a screen is? But most short/medium plays are designed for half-field reads depending on the defensive coverage, so they're automatically cut down to two or three routes on the snap. Full five eligible progressions are not the norm in most offenses, just because QBs rarely have the amount of time available to reach the fourth or fifth receivers. Most routes are eliminated by coverage before the snap, and receivers recognize this as well and will adjust their routes accordingly, often either going through the motions or running a route designed to carry defenders rather than to get open (which is still very useful and is built into the play design.)

This play was never designed to go to either DJ or Odunze. The primary read is Burden who is stymied early, with the outlet being Kmet if Caleb doesn't like the option for Burden. Given the situation it's pretty obvious the simple play is to take the free yards with Kmet, or if you want to be aggressive just wait a beat longer for Burden to uncover on his double move. If Moore was ever going to be a viable target in this play then Caleb should have started out reading Odunze to hold the safety in the middle and then coming to Moore, but because he started the snap staring down the right and then came back to the middle late it made it where the safety's leverage remained to the outside of Moore, so he would never have imagined that pass actually being thrown to him in that situation. Realistically DJ's best option in that context is to just occupy the safety to leave a hole open for Caleb to get it to Burden, which is probably why he throttles down vs carrying the safety across.

In honor of their first division title in a decade, I put together this tribute video. I also wrote and produced the song. Keep Pounding!

Tremayne is here for his blocking and he's a monster at it.

Exactly, sounds hyperbolic and idiotic, doesn't it? That's what reading 80% of this board feels like.

Lost.

Yep, how poor of Bryce to lead this team to a win with a larger margin of victory than the Steelers, Buccaneers, and Broncos. Since so many of you would trade him instantly for Rodgers, Nix or Hurts then how do you explain that? C'mon, bring out the mental gymnastics, clearly the only thing that matters is the QB, everything else is irrelevant right?

We've already established your bonafides are non-existent, so your opinion is meaningless.

He may have literally hurt his Achilles lmao But I am sure you can find something negative out of a road victory against a touch Jets defense. Must be tiresome to live in that headspace.

Our linebackers have played better in recent weeks but any reversion would be lethal because at their worst the middle of this defense becomes a serious problem. Also Mike Jackson has had a rough couple of weeks, we need him to pick it back up. There are no gimmes in the NFL.

They wanted me to move to Cincinnati, I wasn't going to do that. Simple as that.

Well it's always nice to have career options.

Ahh, so you're actually not capable of any developing your metric, coding your own scraping and metric calculation system, and have it automatically publish to your own website on a nightly basis? Well that's just unfortunate.

Great, then you design your own quarterback metric, write your own algorithm for it, scrape years of statistics, code your own website, and post it. Let's see your intelligence at work.

At no point have I "stumped hard" for Bryce. I have simply given clear explanations on why assessing quarterback play is more difficult than looking at simple outcomes because they are intricately tied to numerous factors outside of their control, and that his biggest weakness isn't a lack of physical size but a blind spot in regards to ball security due to an overly aggressive mindset towards play risk/reward ratio. The fact that these elements rub Bryce detractors the wrong way is more a function of their own one-sided perceptions being forced to confront some actual nuance than anything else. If saying the jury is still out on Bryce makes me a "stumper" than that says vastly more about them than it does me.

Here's a 58-yarder if you're down for it:

There's nothing to counter, Dalton's longest attempt over that time period was 48 air yards. No idea where you remember this magical 60 yard throw from.

Well, you've established your bonafides, I've established mine, if you feel they are comparable, then c'est la vie.

You can characterize it however you want, but at each step you are saying "this is what I saw" and what I am providing is actual data. And at no point have I ever characterized Bryce as some deep throwing savant, merely pointing out that the data does not support the idea that he is incapable of attempting and making those kinds of throws. In fact, if we want to get into the analytical weeds, I have my own quarterback metric that I have developed over the years that has a higher correlation with wins than either passer rating or ANYA or ESPN's QBR, and it places Bryce as the 25th rated QB in all of football. If I was biased in any way I'd try to massage the formula to make him look better but the reality is that his lows have greatly weighed on his overall average even this season and he absolutely needs to continue to improve to give this team a chance at future championships. If you want to dive into the data yourself check out https://qba.info

Dalton has had 3 throws of 40+ air yards since 2023: he's 0-3 (0%) with 1 INT