CPantherKing

Rhule looks confused on that sideline

A QB like Howell or Corral should move the ball and excel against 3rd team NFL defenders.

And Michael Jordan

I guess Phil Snow was not expecting that from Howell in his 40 years of coaching defense. I'm sure no one would have ever thought Howell would ever try to run the ball. Defensive genius.

Corral with his patented hospital ball he displayed at Ole Miss

This media team is the worst the Panthers have ever had. The graphics department is struggling too.

Barno is the only player the Panthers drafted that my system approved of... seems to be on the money again.

This OL is really messing up

It'll be sad if Darnold is the only highlight for the Panthers coming out of this preseason game.

Panthers DBs being taught not to look back for the ball. Getting away with some PI today.

Already expected that to happen. Waste of a top 10 pick with the depth of OL talent in the draft.

The middle of the Panthers defense looks even softer than last season

Ickey got beat bad Panthers are going to go through 5 QBs this season the way this OL looks

OL looks like swiss cheese. F'lein screwing up like he has all his career. OL is not playing well together.

Drop Squad in full effect

Will hope fade today?

You sir have figured out exactly how Tepper has become a billionaire. He doesn't build success, he packages failures and forces them into bankruptcy to buy them up for pennies with his banking buddies. Then he auctions the parts off for a profit and invests those profits. Retail investors, employees, and low income communities are always left holding the bag when it's empty.

When you grow up around Bill Walsh and John McVay as a kid with an eidetic memory, you are going to end up like this by the age of 30. I'm sure Sean knew more than Shanahan. He likely knew every play Shanahan and Gruden ran with the Broncos and Raiders in the 90s. He likely knew all about them from his grandfather before he even coached with them. Bill Walsh and John McVay are the GOATs. The line of success and innovation they have given the NFL may never be matched.

Panthers really want to be known for having the roster with the most failed first round draft picks. Your 1st round busts belong to us!

So, no QB who can produce GWD, no WR who can come up clutch and break a game open, no dependable TE, no reliable RB to rotate in for CMC, no solution at LT, no solution at C, Michael Jordan continuing to fail as a starter at guard, a DL that can't stop the run, only 1 LB worth starting, no LBs who can fill holes, Chinn out of position, unreliable SS, the hope squad at CB, not a single draft pick is standing out, no one is good at blitzing the QB, and not a single defender who has proven they can produce turnovers and threaten an offense. Positives: CMC is a go to threat, DJ Moore can show flashes when covered one on one, lots of good coverage options on defense, and one top pass rusher. Looks like an easy week for opposing coaches to game plan. Focus defense on CMC, role coverage to DJ, and load up on runs and screens to Brian Burns side. Challenge everyone not named CMC or DJ to beat them one on one, and make the Panthers prove they can consistently stop the run and the screen passes with negative yardage plays or turnovers. Save the big offensive plays and playbook if the game is close in the late 3rd quarter and the opposing team is trailing. Otherwise just play field position for 3 quarters. That will about sum up the season with what the Panthers have put together with the offseason, draft, and camp. Maybe 4 wins this year I'd go to 7 wins if CMC stays healthy and has a record breaking year.

So, we are already seeing how poorly the Panthers addressed the team in the offseason and draft. I wasn't expecting things to surface this early. I thought week 4 would be the point we saw how bad the Panthers actually did compared to the rest of the league and what was available to them.

7 GWD in 59 starts with 30 losses. That is 37 chances to show his worth in the NFL - a conversion rate of 18.9%. The defense and running game of the Browns anchored 37.3% of the wins. Absent the QB, a bad team converts 40% of the wins, an average team coverts 50% and a good team converts 60%. QBs on a bad team should be converting GWDs 40% of the time if they are good. Good QBs on a good team convert 30% GWD. Mayfield was on a bad Browns team and converted less than 20%. This is a metric that translates consistently from college to the NFL, and QBs will not exceed their college GWD conversion rate in the NFL. Good QBs that can be a factor in the playoffs do not have seasons where they produce 0 GWD... ever. A team would never miss on drafting a QB like Tom Brady, Matt Hasselbeck, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Josh Allen and Desmond Ridder if they paid closer attention to this metric. You'd also avoid many of the QB busts too while hitting more in the mid rounds. You're not going to find QB busts that kept rattling off GWD in college, and you'd root out the Mayfields that are carried to wins by their elite college defenses and running game.

In the NFL, if your QB can't produce game winning drives, your defense can't produce turnovers, your receivers can't come up clutch on 3rd down/redzone, and your running game can't control the clock and can't maintain a lead for more than one quarter, then you have no chance. Without CMC, the Panthers do not have any other players who can check off any of these boxes.

Tepper is wrong! He made his billions off of swooping in to profit on pain, misery, and destruction for pennies on the dollar. He is the furthest from a builder and innovator you will find in the business world. Tepper = The Destroyer of Worlds

We don't talk about the drops in training camp. We wait until gameday to realize WRs hands rarely if ever improve after 4 seasons in the pros, and a QBs ability to produce game winning drives in the pros does not improve from their college years.