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Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
You have to have to sign players to PS. Call them up to active roster. Injured Reserve. That stuff isn’t free. Every team has to keep some available. What player was going to magically help on a 1 year/5M contract? Those are usually game changers….right? -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
And there is the problem. You really don’t understand how this works. Tepper(or any owner) isn’t saving any money with that. It carries over every year. It gets spent eventually. They restructured every contract they could to create cap room for everyone THIS year. And now have bad team that has to do it again just to field a hopefully below average team next year. If you don’t understand this simple concept, there really no reason to continue. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
What internal budget? The Steelers owners are probably the poorest ones the NFL. They do alright. What teams don’t use all there resources? -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Every team has the same amount every year. There is no difference. What is the difference between the Jags or Cowboys. Please show this article that claims this. -
NFL: Pats relationship with Mac Jones "gone sideways"
Toomers replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Evan Neal and he has been awful so far. -
Wellll…it sort of is. Like any 3rd year player, he wants a new deal after this season. Don’t mean they or he will get it, but teams usually lock up players they want asap. So the quickest way to that is to ball out now. I think either someone reminded him of this after week 1, or he got embarrassed at his game film from that week. Totally different effort put out by him since then.
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The late 1st to early 3rd is the easiest place to get a RB. I’ll take 4 years/10M or less from players like Chubb, Henry, Jacobs, Taylor, Sanders, Cook, Stevenson, Kamara, Cook, Jones or Breece Hall over one year at 12M for CMC. If you assume your front office is too ignorant to make a decent pick, that’s a completely different issue. Why not trade your picks for other teams players if yours can’t draft. And it’s the reason you don’t make trades. Does that make sense?
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It’s a huge risk to keep him this year. His main value is this cheap year. After the deadline, his value drops. And who knows what a new coach/staff will want to do. If they want to move on without him, his value probably drops to a 3rd at best. If he doesn’t get hurt again. Take a late first or early second and do what most teams do. Draft quality young cheap RBs.
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But magically, immediately after the draft, every team had a 1st round grade on their top 2-3 picks. Of course they did…lol
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You mean besides the 18.5M in dead cap already accrued?
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Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Chase is an absolute beast. I’d take him over any skill position player in the NFL. That’s about 80M combined salary when the time comes to sign them. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
That was sarcasm. Of course Mike Brown didn’t build this team. He’s famously inept and has been for a long time. So built a solid roster, chose a good DC, and took his team and 2nd year QB to a SB. How is this a BAD coach again? -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
That convenient. Everything good is someone else, but anything bad is on him. There’s the Huddle shuffle. Blame anyone who doesn’t fit the narrative. Nicely done. Of course it was the GM that has been there 30+ years and built that Benga dynasty we remember from…..oh wait? This is getting comical. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
He’s done well because of the mess he got stuck with. And they were smart enough to still have money to spend on OL when their QB took of. He lost week one because Burrow had 5 TOs and his K missed an extra point to win game. Other than that. two road losses to DAL and BAL by 5 points combined. Should we judge on the team he built, and the present or what he took over and is long gone? -
Half could. But most won’t. That’s not pessimistic. It’s reality. Any starters on the team fit that bill. Late round or failed draft picks who suddenly got much better? You’ve already had a top 8 pick 3 years running. I’d say they’re doing a fine job becoming “the Browns” right now.
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What does Robbie have to do with this discussion? This year it was Mcadoo who would fix everything. Sam Darnold just needs to get away from Adam Gase. Joe Brady is a genius…or inept. Maybe y’all should have fired Rhule when Daboli was available. Oops.
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Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don’t think you know what a good HC is. If you think Taylor isn’t, good luck with this next search and the one 3 years from now. Competitive means two different things to me and you. I’ll leave it at that. -
So you’re lesson about the salary cap is “if you hope hard enough, all the players that suck now will be good with a new coach”. Can’t argue with pure fact like that. How does that usually work out for the Panthers?
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Your WR are near bottom of the league. One guy is proven and he’s expensive and seemingly lazy. Not one of the others has done anything to show they can start for an NFL team. TE-awful DT- McCall isn’t playing many snaps, if at all, for a team with options. He’s a backup at best. The rest are nothing. Need a starter besides Brown, and some depth. DE- You need players either way. 5 techniques in 3-4. A LDE that can hold up vs Run in 4-3. LB- Assuming Shaq is gone. That leaves Luvu. And……. Fitterer and Morgan were here when this mess was built. Why is it silly to worry about them doing it again?
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NFL: Pats relationship with Mac Jones "gone sideways"
Toomers replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
As I stated earlier…. there are indications that Jones was a mistake. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
The same bad HC he made the Super Bowl with? The same team that won aS many without him? And if competitive is losing by 2 possessions, I agree that they can probably achieve that. -
Please teach me how the Panthers are going to improve at the multiple positions that need filled. I’ll give you a QB and starting LB(at 32). That leaves…. WR2-3, TE, C, DT, DE, LB and anything representing quality depth. And is it smart for a team to spend all they can while rebuilding so there is no room to improve when/if you hit on a QB?
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Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Once again, do I get to add players to those CLE and NYG teams as well. I thought Baker did ok against the Browns. Gave the team the lead on his last possession. So Burrow was good, and nothing changed as far as team success. See how that works. The Panthers are a couple years away. If they make smart decisions. The idea that a HC/QB is going to make this team a playoff contender next year is laughable. Keep kicking the can for 5 win teams and it will be much longer. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Burrow won 2 of 10 games before he got hurt. Murray was decent and won 5. Jones went to a good team so doesn’t apply. And is already showing signs of being a mistake. Mayfield had to improve a team that finished 0-16 and tanked enough to have plenty of money to build. And an extra top 5 pick. And Baker sure did work out…didn’t he? The Steelers played the Bills and got blown out. What do you think would happen if CAR played the Bills right now? Picking the ONE year they are down to compare this mess to is not applicable. Does CLE get another QB as well when they play again since the Panthers do. What player do the NYG get to add. Makes it hard to compare. Of course all teams have holes. It’s just that not many are sprinting towed a #1 overall pick while being over the cap by 15M next year.