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Previous restructuring is why Shaq had that 19M cap hit this year. They have been kicking it down the road since they got here. And nothing about the salary cap management of Samir and this front office has been good. It’s embarrassingly bad. Where do you think all that cap space disappeared to. Why is a consistent 5 win team having to restructure just to field a below average team? A team picking in the top 10 shouldn’t have to kick money down the road. Contenders should. He maneuvered 19M to a useless QB. 20M guaranteed to a WR who forgot how to catch. 15M guaranteed to 2 of the worst OL in the NFL on the first day of FA. 31M to Teddy for one year. Boston, 9.5M for one year. Weatherly 8M for one year, Okung 13M for 6-7games. KK Short -13M for 3 games. Roberts, Apple, Whitehead, and how many more throwaways? The term “expert” is awful cheap to acquire these days.

He already has that money.

Contract isn’t awful to a team acquiring him. 8.4M this year is all that’s guaranteed. Then about 11M/yr after. Still wouldn’t give a 1st, but it’s much better than what he has now.

Well, it’s cap hit. He’s had the money for awhile now.

18.5M immediately.

It’s the same thing. The minute the player is no longer under contract with the team, the full amount hits. Even OTC includes it in dead cap totals now.

That’s because they already paid him that money long ago. The restructuring of Paradis caused them to have to use voidable years to fit him in last year. That’s why he has a cap hit THIS year while not playing here.

Shaq’s 5M puts it at 31M. Take off 3M for Thomas’ first year 5-6M for draft class 3M or more for practice squad 1.5M for 52-53rd players. Now it’s back to about 18M. Anyone that goes on IR has to be replaced Need some room to operate during season. For a team with the worst QB situation in the NFL. As well as OL. So how much help is that going to bring when every team with more assets wants these players as well. And how many will want to come play for a lame duck HC that mortgaging the teams future. That’s where the team is at right now.

Edit: read that wrong

10 year vet rule. Comp pick rules are strange and are hard to keep up with. But this was mentioned from when he came here. The way it constantly changes, no telling what will happen from year to year.

Gilmore can not bring more than a 5th round comp pick. No matter how much he signs for. And that’s if they sign no FA worth anything.

Pay 3-8M more for a player in Anderson who produced 46 more yards in 46 more targets? And give up draft picks to do that? I don’t see that happening. With 8M of RAs base salary guaranteed, he could starting pouting again and they would be on the hook for that if they wanted to let him go. Agholor was every bit as good last year and in 2020.

I just can’t see the Pats paying him 12.8M, plus at least 5-10M to get rid of Agholar, and give up a draft pick to do it. The Panthers would have to pay most of his base salary for any pick to happen.

How is “cheap” for the Pats in any way. They would owe him 10M base salary, 2.8M roster bonus, and 5M to trade/10M to cut Aglohar. That’s either 17.8 or 22.8M to replace Aglohar with RA. What math are you using to create this “cheap” scenario. At least your consistent.

You mean the exact same young receivers they had when they signed him to that ridiculous contract in August?

NE is not giving up more than a late round pick to pay RA 12.8M next year to replace the same player basically in Agohlar. Who will cost them 5-10M to trade/cut as well. There is no logic from a Pats side in doing this unless Panthers pay his whole salary.

That’s how it works when you give a guy 9.5M guaranteed and cut him after one year.

You pretty much answered your own question. Those deals, and many more. But the organizations favorite motto of “it seemed like a good idea at the time” that was proclaimed with all these moves led to the current situation. And anyone pointing these problems out as they happened was blasted by the “echo chamber” as negative trolls.

Moton cap hit for the next three years will now be 24+M/year. But who needs cap space when you’re getting fired anyhow.

He’s been around a lot longer than 95% of the “self-proclaimed insiders” and “draft experts” that spring up daily on Twitter or whatever social media. Not saying he’s right but he has as much credibility as anyone not closely affiliated with ESPN or NFL Network. Just about anything he’s ever reported or predicted is available on his site. That story about Stafford was reported by Charlie Campbell. Who posts info and drafts on his site. And it’s about the 4-5th different story reported on that trade. So someone, or no one, is wrong or believing the wrong person. The Panthers are eating salary for CMC no matter what. Trading him would save 8.1M. Which they would have paid him while risking he gets injured again. At least with trading you can get a quality pick and save something. The money they owe him is not disappearing any other way. DJ Mooore is going to want a new deal. Probably before this year. Or he may not want to come back to a team that has no QB and gave RA 50M for 1 good year while ignoring him. Burns tag is already 16M next year. 20+M if he makes another Pro Bowl. Better decide soon what direction they want to take or he may not want to come back.

https://walterfootball.com/nflhotpress/article/Carolina-Had-Stafford-But-Waited Carolina Had Stafford But Waited Updated March 2, 2022 By Charlie Campbell. Follow Charlie on Twitter @draftcampbell. The Rams and Lions trade of Matthew Stafford kicked off last offseason, and it proved to be the most monumental move for the 2021 season. Stafford led the Rams to a Super Bowl Championship in his first season in with the team, but the trade came so close to never happening. Just before this year's Super Bowl, reporters from Carolina wrote about how the Panthers were close to landing Stafford in a trade instead of the Rams. In speaking to NFL sources, Detroit was ready to finalize a trade with Carolina for Stafford, but the Panthers wouldn't finalize the deal because they wanted to wait in order to do more work and tests. In that time, the Rams swooped in with a better offer and landed Stafford. During the 2021 Senior Bowl, the Lions and Panthers worked out what the Stafford trade would be. The center piece that Detroit would have gotten was the No. 8-overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft, which the Panthers later used on South Carolina quarterback Jaycee Horn. Carolina and Detroit had the compensation agreed to, and when the two teams left Mobile, sources that there was a 90 percent chance that Stafford was going to be traded to Carolina. Detroit was ready to finalize the trade had it be a done deal before leaving Alabama, but Carolina did not want to finalize the trade yet. The Panthers wanted to take the weekend to do more work and tests before executing the trade. The Lions said that was fine, but they would stay open to other offers in the mean time. That Saturday, the Rams swooped in and offered two first-round picks and veteran quarterback Jared Goff. Getting two first-rounders and a quarterback who went to the Super Bowl a few years earlier was a much better offer for the Lions, so they seized it. Carolina was shocked and stunned, but the extra work and tests that owner David Tepper and head coach Matt Rhule wanted to run cost the organization a trade for Stafford. As they say, the rest is history.

Read page 2 of this thread. Best they can hope for is a 5th. Which means they spent 6M to improve a late round pick.

Keep going. Boston-1 yr/9.5M Weatherly-1 yr/8M KK- a couple games/13M Okung-6 games/13M These, and all the moves you listed, were defended non-stop by the same people wondering why the Panthers can’t sign any players worth a damn.

Then they would have an opening to fill. Which is why I think many of these interviews have been done. And it wouldn’t be surprising if the whoever between Hunt and Khan didn’t get the GM job to get one with another team soon. And come Tuesday, teams can block interviews with other teams. Just getting prepared while they still have a GM doing the job.