Mr. Scot

Translation: David Tepper really is that stupid.

I'd add that both Gruden and O'Brien already have experience working for a sh-tty team owner, so there's that

I'm not so sure going from the Rams to the Panthers increases anybody's chances of getting a head coaching job (other than maybe this one).

It's not so much a commentary on Gruden as it is a question of where we're looking. (see the second paragraph)

I must have missed that point.

Maybe. Not guaranteed though, and it's not hard to imagine Tepper being a guy who sees himself as above the rules. But yeah, just fire him already. What's the point? Also, as mentioned above, firing him gives you access to a lot better choices than these guys.

Are those really guys you'd want as your head coach, though? O'Connell maybe but if you wanna go tht route there are probably better options. One other thing: I believe bumping an interim to a full time job allows you to skirt the Rooney Rule. Is that something Tepper wants to do? Regardless, if these guys represent Tepper's head coaching choices, I'm gonna echo that call that he needs to hire an outside consultant (or let Fitterer and Morgan handle that process).

So our targets are a guy who's unemployed, a college OC and a guy who's already an NFL OC on a much better team... No rising star quarterback coaches or other position coaches, i.e. the type that usually get interviewed for this sort of gig... Uuummm

Tepper is keeping Rhule when people want him gone even worse than they did Rivera. And honestly, if you were say, a Jaguars fan, would even the best facilities in the world be enough to keep you interested if the level of play never rose above where it is now?

Off the field? Yeah. On the field? Not so much.

Are there better? Yeah, but I've never found him that bad. Certainly not deserving of what he gets here.

Rivera has his shortcomings, but Hurney should have been dumped first. Actually, Hurney never should have been brought back to begin with, but hey...

Mixon gets a lot of undeserved crap on here.

These sound like someone other than Matt Rhule's idea. For O'Connell, this would be a lateral move since he's already an OC. He'd have to be out of contract or have permission. Either way going from the Rams to the Panthers with no advancement sounds weird. Could they be being told it might turn into a head coaching job? Not by Rhule but yeah. That'd leave you with a staff full of Rhule loyalists though (not so sure that works).

Riiiiight

Wouldn't matter if I did. You'd still be wrong about nearly everything you post. There'd just be somebody else pointing it out.

I'm generally looking for discussion. Pretty clear what you're doing is looking for attention.

Which may lead to some friction... ...and I'm down for that.

I don't want Matt Rhule doing that.

Pretty sure he's sh-t posting. Well actually, I know he is. It's just a matter of whether it's intentional or not.

They did.

That's a stretch, especially given his "outside my comfort zone" comments about Joe Brady.

And Rhule will be okay with hiring a guy who could potentially replace him?

We don't have smart people in charge.

Sure does. Sounds a lot like when people were defending Michael Vick because "it really takes this many years to learn the West Coast Offense." Right now, Rhule just needs a third year. And when that fails, he'll just need a fourth year. And so on, and so on, and...